Swipe of the Day
Take that, Charles Freeman
From Colin Berry’s posting entitled, The Turin so-called Shroud: stunningly successful realization of a 14th century thought experiment?
Colin’s caption:
Notre Dame Cathedral Paris, built 1163-1345. That’s just the inside. One wonders how the unsophisticated medieval mind as portrayed by Charles Freeman, so easily confused we’re told between one image and another, pre- verus post-mortem, could have been capable of producing this.
It’s easy. Some people, even today, are confused between negatives and positives, etc. Nonetheless, point taken.
Is the Shroud real? Probably.
The Shroud of Turin may be the real burial cloth of Jesus. The carbon dating, once seemingly proving it was a medieval fake, is now widely thought of as suspect and meaningless. Even the famous Atheist Richard Dawkins admits it is controversial. Christopher Ramsey, the director of the Oxford Radiocarbon Laboratory, thinks more testing is needed. So do many other scientists and archeologists. This is because there are significant scientific and non-religious reasons to doubt the validity of the tests. Chemical analysis, all nicely peer-reviewed in scientific journals and subsequently confirmed by numerous chemists, shows that samples tested are chemically unlike the whole cloth. It was probably a mixture of older threads and newer threads woven into the cloth as part of a medieval repair. Recent robust statistical studies add weight to this theory. Philip Ball, the former physical science editor for Nature when the carbon dating results were published, recently wrote: “It’s fair to say that, despite the seemingly definitive tests in 1988, the status of the Shroud of Turin is murkier than ever.” If we wish to be scientific we must admit we do not know how old the cloth is. But if the newer thread is about half of what was tested – and some evidence suggests that – it is possible that the cloth is from the time of Christ.
No one has a good idea how front and back images of a crucified man came to be on the cloth. Yes, it is possible to create images that look similar. But no one has created images that match the chemistry, peculiar superficiality and profoundly mysterious three-dimensional information content of the images on the Shroud. Again, this is all published in peer-reviewed scientific journals.
We simply do not have enough reliable information to arrive at a scientifically rigorous conclusion. Years ago, as a skeptic of the Shroud, I came to realize that while I might believe it was a fake, I could not know so from the facts. Now, as someone who believes it is the real burial shroud of Jesus of Nazareth, I similarly realize that a leap of faith over unanswered questions is essential.
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Perhaps they weren’t ignorant idiots back then. That in no way means they completely understood everything. Architectural marvels in no way correlates to medical scientific understanding as we have it today.
There’s much more in medieval cathedrals than meets the eye.
>A well known book is ‘Le Mystère des Cathédrales’
written in 1929 by Fulcanelli (1839 – 1953), the mysterious
French alchemist who was one of the first to write about
the mysteries surrounding the French cathedrals.
>According to Fulcanelli a cathedral is an
alchemical book written in stone. …
Link:
http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/The%20mystery%20of%20the%20Cathedrals.html
>The Gothic cathedral architecture originated in France in the early 12th century during the heydays of the Knights Templar.
>The Knights Templar officially called the ‘Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon’ formed a knight’s order of priests who protected the pilgrimage routes to Jerusalem.
>The order was founded in 1118 by Hugo van Payens who managed to team up nine brave knight-priests. This group of nine knights became to be one of the richest and most powerful groups in history.
>With their huge wealth, collected from financing the crusades, they were able to build the Gothic cathedrals in Europe. … etc. …
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Here another clue:
>… the key to the major Arcanum is given quite openly in one of the figures, illustrating the present work. And this key consists quite simply in a colour revealed to the artisan from the first work. No Philosopher, to my knowledge, has emphasized the importance of this essential point. In revealing it, I am obeying the last wishes of Fulcanelli and my conscience is clear.
http://shadowtheatre13.com/mysterycathedrals.html
I am joking!…
See also:
>… Anyone with knowledge of the alchemical books of the past will accept as a basic premise that oral instruction from master to pupil is the most valuable of all. Fulcanelli received his own initiation in this way, as I myself received mine from him, although I owe it to myself to state that Cyliani had already opened wide for me the great door of the labyrinth that week in 1915, when the new edition of his little work was published. …
Sorry. I am joking!…
Alchemy is represented by a woman, in Paris…
I am joking!…
>Fulcanelli nous indique, dans son Mystère des cathédrales : “l’alchimie y est figurée par une femme dont le front touche les nues. Assise sur un trône, elle tient de la main gauche un sceptre, – insigne de souveraineté, – tandis que la droite supporte deux livres, l’un fermé (ésotérisme), l’autre ouvert (exotérisme). Maintenue entre ses genoux et appuyée contre sa poitrine se dresse l’échelle aux neuf degrés, scala philosophorum, hiéroglyphe de la patience que doivent posséder ses fidèles, au cours des neufs opérations successives du labeur hermétique .”
>A sa gauche une femme élève un matras. Il contient la quintessence des plantes, les digitales situées dans son dos, plantes toxiques. C’est un mal dont l’art peut extraire un bien. A droite, l’autre femme tient un astrolabe, instrument d’astronomie. Le point commun de ces trois figurations est de permettre de manifester l’invisible, que ce soit en possibilité de nature ou en compréhension de lois subtiles.
Here a rough translation:
>Fulcanelli tells us, in his Mystery of the cathedrals. “Alchemy is represented by a woman whose forehead touches the clouds Sitting on a throne, she holds in his left hand a scepter, – insignia of sovereignty – while right supports two books, one closed (esotericism), the other open (exoteric). Maintained between his knees and leaning against his chest rises across nine degrees scala philosophorum hieroglyph patience required of her faithful, during successive operations of the new hermetic labor. ”
>To his left a woman raising a flask. It contains the quintessence of plants, located finger in his back, poisonous plants. It is an evil whose art can extract property. On the right, the other woman holds an astrolabe, astronomical instrument. Common to these three representations is to manifest the invisible, whether in kind or ability to understand subtle laws.
Link:
http://hermetism.free.fr/Alchimie.htm
Do you know two works of Fulcanelli ?
>His works are the “Mystery of the cathedrals” (see the photography of the original edition) and the “Dwellings of the philosophers”, published between the years 1926-30 and after published again regularly by Jean-Jacques Pauvert…
>Fulcanelli shows that alchemy, before printed on paper, was engraved on the stone books that are the walls of certain cathedrals or castles. We go today discovering these paper and stone books.
Link:
http://hermetism.free.fr/indexUS.htm
St Bernard who’s Abbey was 15 K. From my Degruy ancestors chateau in the Orient Forest (locus of le Ray (Lirey) Shroud of Turin Chapel) was the intelligence behind Chartres and Notre Dame Cathedrals and the most admired man of his time . The Grand Orient Lodge of the Freemasons originated in the neighboring from de Gruy Chateau which is fitting because the Knights Templars originated in this Orient Forest. This neighboring Chateau Vendeuvre sur Barth was owned by the Duke of Luxembourg in exile and general Montmorency (close friend of our ancestor count Michael de Gruy(ere) and his cousin King Francois I) / our DeGruy Chateau Magny Fouchard was very old and because the Count of Gruy(ere)’s mother was a Vergy (shroud owners from de Ray) I believe this explains their presence in the Orient Forest. (Their original Castle / Chateau is in Switzerland at Gruyere’s and they were the first Knights over the walls of Jerusalem in the first crusade explaining their friendship with Othon de La Roche de Ray importer of the Shroud to deRay Castle at Ray sur Saone in Burgundy…Hugh de Payens head of the Knights Templars (Gruy were Templars) lived west of Troyes (Orient Forest) and was also friends of the Count de Gruy(ere) / it is important that general deGaulle retired near Clairvaux Monastery and the de Gruy Chateau as he was very devoted to the Merovingian kings (Dagobert) and considered restoring France to that heritage ( he flew the Templar Flag of Lorraine and a 50 ft high cross of Lorraine was erected near his house after he died / Fulcanelli was the owner of “the Bookshop of the Marvelous ” in Paris where all the Alchemists met plus my DeGruy ancestor who studied medicine in Paris and whose Foucher wife related him to Victor Hugo’s Foucher wife and we know Hugo saved Notre Dame Cathedral from destruction w/ his “Hunchback” books popularity ….
For those interested in my family history in the Orient Forest please see my daily Blog… /eugenerayarchitect.blogspot.com….ALSO you can google my past blogs via subject such as EUGENE RAY / SHROUD OF TURIN….EUGENE RAY / FULCANELLI etc! etc
The same country , the US, can get a craft to Pluto and also be the home of a mass of creationists.
In the Middle Ages they could build a Gothic cathedral and still turn up to Orleans to be given a cup of wine left over from the marriage feast of Cana.
So Charles there is no irrationality in the modern world? Homeopathy is pretty popular, is it not?