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Pareidolia Again

December 27, 2013

imageFrom an announcement:

Pareidolia: New Works by Donald Fortescue

OPENS January 16, 6:30-8PM, Artist Reception

EXHIBITS January 16 – February 22, 2014

Oakland Art Murmur Celebration on February 7, 6-9PM

Vessel Gallery, 471 25th Street, Oakland, CA 94612, 510 893 8800

Gallery Hours:  Tuesday through Saturday, 11-6PM

You are cordially invited to join us as we kick off the New Year with the new and exciting solo show “Pareidolia: New Works by Donald Fortescue.”

And then there is this:

”Pareidolia” is the psychological phenomenon whereby a vague or random stimulus (often an image or sound) is perceived as significant or having recognizable form – classical examples being seeing the “man” in the moon (or the “rabbit pounding rice” if you are Japanese), the Shroud of Turin, and the “face” in the Cydonia region of Mars.

The face on Mars (pictured)? Yes, of course. And the man in the moon. But not the Shroud of Turin, not the man on the shroud. It is ludicrous to suggest that

Is the pareidolia on the shroud? I certainly think so. It includes, in my opinion, the images of coins, lettering, flowers and plants, and the appearance of teeth. But the image[s] of the man on the shroud are not and certainly cannot be pareidolia.

Categories: Art, Pareidolia
  1. December 27, 2013 at 8:44 am

    To paraphrase Scripture:

    “Ignorance of ignorance. All is ignorance.”

  2. December 27, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    The image on the Shroud does not meet the definition of pareidolia.

  3. Louis
    December 27, 2013 at 6:10 pm

    There are at least some things identified on the Shroud by Professor Avinoam Danin that merit consideration. For those who have not read his book “Botany of the Shroud” and seen the excellent photographs, there is another way to have a look:

    http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~brach/Jerusalem_Flowers/?honnan=Nemzeti_Hirhalo

    • daveb of wellington nz
      December 28, 2013 at 12:13 am

      Louis, I checked the site, but only the text captions came up. The graphics didn’t show, I don’t think it was my security filters. Have the graphics been taken down, or are they still there?

  4. Louis
    December 28, 2013 at 5:59 pm

    David, I checked the link now and everything is there. I used to have such problems with my last computer, a dual-core with Vista but have had no such problems now with an i5 with Windows 7. What you can do is to click on the link several times till the graphics show because that is what I used to do. Apparently you do not have the book, but this no problem because the graphics are of excellent quality, exactly as they appear in the book. Good luck and let us know your views.

  5. Louis
    January 3, 2014 at 9:09 am

    David, did you manage to look at the graphics? I am waiting for your views, even if it is negative, because the suggestion came from me.

  6. January 7, 2014 at 8:27 pm

    Site came up fine for me. I’m not a big fan of “I think I see,” even from experts.

  7. Louis
    January 7, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    But how about David? I’m still waiting to see what he has to say, even if it is a thumbs down. Danin served as a corporal in the Israeli army, fought in a war, he speaks his mind. If he did write about what he sees it is because he, as a botanist, sees it. At the end of his book he says that his research left him sleepless on many nights, wondering why he had to play this role in Shroud research and I am convinced that he would have the opportunity to confirm at least some of this research had the Church paved the way for him. Even Ian Wilson, who is careful about claims that have been made all along these years, has kept an open mind. That is what he said in his last Shroud book.

  8. Hugh Farey
    January 8, 2014 at 10:15 am

    Louis,

    I’ve had a detailed look at the link you posted above, and find it a little confusing. Before we get into the Shroud, we get a brief survey of some typical Israeli plants: Phoenix dactylifera, Olea europaea, Anastatica hierochuntica, Anemone coronaria, Capparis aegyptia, Cistus creticus, Chrysanthemum coronarium, Hippocrepsis unisiliquosa, Ridolfia segetum, Rhamnus lycioides and Ziziphus spina-christi.

    Next we get some of the plants ‘identified’ as having left marks on the Shroud: Gundelia tournefortii, Pistacia sp. and Zygophyllum dumosum, Rhamnus licioides, and Anthemis bornmuelleri or Matricaria recutita, as well as the Capparis aegyptia, Chrysanthemum cononarium and Cistus creticus previously mentioned.

    Of these 17 plants, only 7 left their pollen on the shroud, according to Max Frei, and he identified a further 51 plants which do not appear on Danin’s list at all. Phoenix dactylifera and Olea europaea, (the date palm and olive tree) are prolific wind-blown pollinators, so it is strange that Frei did not identify any pollen at all from them, nor from either Anthemis bornmuelleri or Matricaria recutita, whose flowers are identified as clustered thickly around the head. Neither of these plants is found near Jerusalem anyway.

    Spines of Rhamnus lycioides, Gundelia tournefortii and Ziziphus spina-christi are suggested, implying that the crown of thorns was a most elaborate affair carefully composed of strands of three different bushes. Max Frei only identified pollen from Gundelia, although the other two also flower at the same time.

    Finally, Danin considers Zygophyllum dumosum as a particularly indicative plant (and its pollen was identified by Frei), which would be more convincing if the plant grew in Jerusalem, which it doesn’t.

    Looked at as a whole, the whole plant identification issue looks more like a cross between pareidolia and simple wishful thinking than any systematic analysis.

  9. Louis
    January 8, 2014 at 11:05 am

    Hugh,the good thing about you is that as a science teacher you are able to analyse many things relating to this field, make a detailed study and thus raise important questions. I don’t see everything that Professor Avinoam Danin identified on the Shroud, only some two or three things. The thorn image in particular seems to be very clear and I have a complete strand of Ziziphus spina-christi taken from the area near Jerusalem.

    Perhaps there should be two lines of research:

    — A comparison should be made between the tapes Uri Baruch examined, what remains of Max Frei Sulzer’s collection and the pollen that was vacuumed off the Shroud during the restoration

    — Professor Danin must be given the opportunity to continue his research, which means the authorities will need to keep the doors open for him. He is no stranger, he was one of those invited to the round table in Turin by Cardinal Severino Poletto

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