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The lesser known aspect, that of the intrinsic characteristics of the Cloth

February 27, 2015

imageThe Italian language daily L’Indro has an article, which according to Google Translation, is headlined, The Shroud and uses Jewish funeral.

You get the idea. It begins:

The Shroud of Turin is a relic certainly unique: because in general, understandably, tend to focus primarily on the image that is imprinted, we will try here to give an account of a lesser known aspect, that of the intrinsic characteristics of the Cloth in the uses Jewish funeral.

You get the idea.  Here is a LINK to a Googlized Translation into English of this very interesting article.

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  1. February 27, 2015 at 8:43 am

    The translated article was not the easiest to read but it was not really that difficult. I am of thought that it describes what happened to the body of Jesus right before and after he was placed into the rock tomb. The article gives good reason for the Shroud to appear as it does even to this date. To me, the article is telling us that the Shroud matches what a shroud should look like if it was used as a burial cloth in the days of Jesus. Meaning that there is knowledge there that would not have been known to be used to make a fake by some artist in the middle ages.

    • February 27, 2015 at 9:02 am

      The comment sent at 8:43 was connected to the wrong article Sorry

  2. piero
    February 27, 2015 at 10:48 am

    Ada Grossi says:

    >The deceased had to be wrapped in a shroud (‘takrik’ or ‘takrikim’)
    generally made of white linen … …

    >…the linen of the Shroud is interesting for two main reasons: the total absence of wool fibers and the considerable value of the cloth, which has a textile structure
    “highly sought” (= herringbone), …

    >… The Shroud of Turin is compatible with Jewish burial customs,
    but because it is traditionally considered that one that wrapped Christ in the tomb… …

    Link:
    http://www.lindro.it/0-cultura/2015-02-27/168507-la-sindone-e-gli-usi-funerari-giudaici

    Yes.
    Ancient weaving could be highly sophisticated…
    But, IMO, “herringbone” is more difficult but not “very very sought”.
    Am I wrong?

    Perhaps it would be interesting to investigate also the mechanical load
    borne by different types of fabrics during weaving …
    and see also: the subsequent ageing during the centuries.
    Why not?
    — — *** — —

    Now I have found a database…:
    “Database of ATR-IR spectra of materials related to paints and coatings”

    Here the description:
    >In this page a selection of ATR-FT-IR spectra of various conservation- and painting-related materials (pigments, binders, fillers, etc) is presented.
    >These infrared spectra have been recorded at University of Tartu (Estonia), Institute of Chemistry, Chair of Analytical Chemistry. The spectra have been acquired over the last couple of years in the course of various projects on historic, industrial and construction paints, coatings and pigments.
    >In the course of the research of inorganic pigments and the usefulness of ATR-FT-IR for identification of inorganic pigments using the low wavenumber region (550–230 cm–1) two papers have been published (Spectrochimica Acta Part A, 2009, 73, 764–771 and Spectrochimica Acta Part A, 2010, 75, 1061–1072) and a doctoral thesis has been defended. IR spectra of these inorganic pigments are presented in section “Inorganic pigments” in the subsection “Pigment + linseed oil”.

    Link:
    http://tera.chem.ut.ee/IR_spectra/

    I think this database can be useful to discuss
    the strange case of the claims by Charles Freeman.
    It’s easy to make some experiment and ATR-FTIR control…
    I never saw ATR-FTIR spectra of various conservation
    – and painting- related materials (pigments, binders, fillers, etc)
    presented for the purpose of studies on Holy Shroud.
    Am I wrong?

    In the past (= January 24, 2014 at 10:57 am
    But the argument was the following =
    “Comment Promoted: Are the Quad Mosaics Meaningless?”)
    I wrote:
    >… But, before to continue (… for example, see also : the comparisons
    for the SPM controls with respect the ATR-FTIR controls) …
    >I want to ask :
    What is your remark about this point (= the lack of Raman analyses
    on radiocarbon area and neighbourhood … )

    So,
    I have neglected to pursue the matter “ATR-FTIR” (however
    also Prof. Giulio Fanti did not go beyond a certain type of study …
    ie.: what it was absolutely necessary for the purpose of dating,
    in one of the three methods of “Dating”).

    Then the question to answer can be the following:
    “How to organize a true ATR-FTIR and
    AFM workshop around the Shroud of Turin?”

    Then remember the
    “Interview with Bruno Barberis,
    President of the International Center of Sindonology Turin”
    (February 20, 2015)

    Link:
    http://www.lindro.it/0-cultura/2015-02-20/168309-organizzare-un-laboratorio-intorno-alla-sindone

    Prof. Barberis = a thirty-year career as Professor of Mathematical Physics
    at the University of Turin…

    Jewish funeral or painting?
    The claims of Charles Freeman seem very weak.

  3. piero
    February 27, 2015 at 11:18 am

    My previous message is not well centered.
    Perhaps, as I vaguely wrote about the hidden textile secrets of that Linen,
    we have (also) to do other interesting works…

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