Jairo A. Diaz, (Department of Pathology, Medicine School, Laboratory of Pathology, Hospital Departmental of Villavicencio, Hospital Departmental of Granada, University Cooperative of Colombia, Villavicencio, Colombia) in a repetitive series of comments writes;
Please read our last article published in NATURAL SCIENCE from the scientific research publishing group.,.. the title “Geometric triangular chiral hexagon complexes and clonal embryogenic body organization on the Turin Shroud crucified man image: A predictable tissue response to injury” please observe these real images and text the link is
please help us the diffusion of this article in those who believe in jesus
Okay, I helped. But I’m sorry, Jairo, I read it and I just cannot accept your premise.
Here, for all, is some of the abstract:
. . . Our interest is to determine if we can predict and identify these patterns in the Shroud of Turin. Based on pattern recognition image was analyzed over 100 shroud images. We identified a central spectral emission line that exhibits a characteristic signature on a plot of residual electro- magnetic radiation, head area narrowing and low extremities broadening, indication of decay energy changes in the velocity of the molecules in the traversal trajectory. This Electromagnetic collision event generates in the cloth stagnant blood areas with patterns identical to those identified for us in cancer damage tissues. Inflammatory cytokines activate stem cells and Notch signaling proteins in cascade of interactions to generate real clonal human embryoid template. Can we predict function from structure? These structures evoke life, regeneration, but not death. Our findings suggest the image of a crucified man on the Shroud of Turin is a real physical electromagnetic collision event in response to extreme tissue injury, . . .
What can I say? Pattern recognition on pictures of an old, dirty, wrinkled, mended cloth? Embryonic shapes? I can probably find any shape I want on this cloth. An electromagnetic collision event?
I’m sorry, Jairo, I read the paper. I’m not convinced.
Natural Science claims it is a peer-reviewed scientific journal. It is part of . . .
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Images of 6- and 9-week old developing fetuses in the scorch/patch regions…embryogenic body organization evident…couldn’t one also argue it looks like a souvenir keychain from Area 51? Based on the imagery results, the proposal is made to isolate DNA to evaluate its ability to drive stem cell development…the face region is also “deconstructed” to reveal embryonic images-what if one does similar analyses on other, unrelated objects? Does such imagery exist elsewhere or is this unique to the Shroud? What would a “deconstruction” of the Sgt. Pepper album cover reveal? Or perhaps, even the White album?
The Scientific Research Publishing group is no more scientific than any other vanity publisher, peer-reviewed or not. There may be any number of genuine, authoritative papers expounding new ideas which deserve close attention, and there are certainly a large number of wildly speculative papers with no scientific justification whatever.
It took me awhile to understand what Dr. Diaz was trying to say. Had to pull out a medical encyclopedia, and it was still confusing because I could not understand his ideas about finding residual EMR on a cloth, purported to be, even by skeptics, more than 500 years old. I understand Dr. Diaz did not have direct access to the Shroud, so how could he examine it for residual EMR? The so-called ‘spectral emission line’, presumably, is the result of electromagnetic activity surrounding the Shroud-but under what conditions? and when? And what equipment was used to analyze this? As I understand it, the SOT is now kept in an airtight case filled with Argon and some other gasses, would this affect Dr. Diaz results? I got as much info as I could at the local library and the internet about images being produced in cancerous tissue, came up with nothing. And I came up with less than nothing about cytokines and signaling proteins creating embryo-like pictures on anything. I would like Dan to invite Dr. Diaz to further explain his findings on this blog. As it is, with no disrespect to dr. Diaz, I can’t understand why a doctor, a pathologist, with a string of letters a mile long behind his name, would imperil his academic credibility by signing his name to this paper. It seems like really bad science, and even worse theology. I do indeed believe in Jesus, but it would seem to me very irresponsible to pass this along, unless someone can explain why finding so-called “embryo pictures,” and they don’t look embryonic to me-is proof of anything. I know people here who have found mold patches that look like Elvis on their refrigerator, and Mary on a tortilla, and aside from the scientific language, this looks like the same thing. Any chance there is no “Dr. Diaz,” and someone is, as my English e-pals say it-“having us on?” Sounds like it to me.
I wondered the same thing: if this were a highly devoted effort to create a parody with the intent of poking fun. There are several sentences essentially lifted out of a previous review article (mine) on the nature of the blood, citing other references, although the significance of the MNS was never connected until recently.
I searched on “Jairo A Diaz, pathology”, discovered some four papers only, all published in vanity publications, and generally concerning interaction of cancer cells. I also attempted to find staff on ‘Colombia Villaviacencio Hospital’. Found the hospital, but unsuccessful at verifying that the author was engaged there.
Thanks very , very much for your comments
I understand the controversy that our article will be generate. if it has been impossible explain how its generate the image of a crucified man in the shroud , it is expected that a new finding like we now documented, can generated even more controversy . I want to start by the beginning. I am a pathologist ( 58 ) with a master degree at Universidad of Sao Paulo Brazil . with a fellowship from UCC international union against cancer at London University Royal postgraduate hammersmith hospital in 1991 . I am engage in cancer research in a a country with not traditional scientific publications , but with our own support we published 6 articles this its the list
1) PLoS One. 2007 Dec 12;2(12):e1282.
Geometric triangular chiral hexagon crystal-like complexes organization in pathological tissues biological collision order. 7,796 VIEWS
Framework of Collagen Type I – Vasoactive Vessels Structuring Invariant Geometric Attractor in Cancer Tissues: Insight into Biological Magnetic Field 2,596 views
3) Dovepress Journal: Cancer Management and Research
Intercellular cancer collisions generate an ejected crystal comet tail effect with fractal interface embryoid body reassembly transformation (19521) Total Article Views
Dovepress Journal: Cancer Management and Research
4) Phenotype characterization of embryoid body structures generated by a crystal comet effect tail in an intercellular cancer collision scenario (9669) Total Article Views
5) Electromagnetic Field Released in Collision-Impact Events Generate in the Matrix Interface Fractal Scalable Invariant Geometric Triangular Chiral Hexagonal Structures
DOI: 10.4236/ojg.2013.33022 OPEN JOURNAL OF GEOLOGY .
to adequately understand our work is necessary read our previous 5 articles like a novel . you don’t understand if you know the whole context on. l et me explain briefly :
We identified for the first time GTCHC complexes in cancer tissues . order in chaos? Yes , we documented it , in all type of cancers (. PLOS ONE ). but these complexes are biologically active an structuring attractors (. PLOS ONE ). sequentially This geometric platform generates in space time interval EMBRYOID BODIES IN ALL TYPE OF CANCER S (journal of cancer management and research ) we documented the phenotype of this structures . “ patches that look like Elvis on their refrigerator, and Mary on a tortilla” not really — these structures are real . We are probably confronted with irreducible geometric matrix, noble structures that remain unchanged at the microscopic, macroscopic, megascopic levels during transit. Under this novel observation cancer incorporates a real visualization world with a great surprising finding in biology, physics, and geology. This visualization plat-form literally allows us to see what would otherwise re-main completely invisible. In a brief glance, we could recognize patterns or identify suitable features in noise data—something that is difficult or impossible to achieve with more traditional data analysis. From theory to practice this irreducible geometric matrix allowed us to identify in geology, real measurable green infrared-electromagnetic stripe line in interface with hexagonal geomorphic pattern, triangular chiral pyramidal rock structures, geology well defined mirror images, template platform to bio signature characterization of ancestral primitive polar head-tail organization, embryoid and human-like shape pattern embedded as giant fossils in rocks that have never been seen before… please go to this article and observe the astonishment images
Electromagnetic Field Released in Collision-Impact Events Generate in the Matrix Interface Fractal Scalable Invariant Geometric Triangular Chiral Hexagonal Structures DOI: 10.4236/ojg.2013.33022 open journal of geology .
why a geological journal published a research from a pathologist ? . simple… irreducible geometric matrix … GTCHC COMPLEXES its , AN IRREDUCTIBLE GEOMETRIC MATRIX THIS IS THE BASIS OF ALL OUR FINDINGS IN GEOLOGY, CANCER TISSUES AND IN EXTEME INJURED TISSUES LIKE A MAN OF THE SHROUD . follow a scientific method , we were able to predict an reproduce this GTCHC comp0lexes through our electro optical model ( PLEASE READ MATERIAL AND METHODS OF OUR FIRST PUBLICATION )
“ I can’t understand why a doctor, a pathologist, with a string of letters a mile long behind his name, would imperil his academic credibility by signing his name to this paper,”
I’m documenting what I see ….. in cancer tissues ….. in injured tissues … in geology and now in the Turin shroud , simple like this …. I understand that seems like science fiction but believe its real … I’m being honest with me and with my students ,( I am professor of pathology at school of medicine university cooperative of Colombia ..) Extreme injured tissues by cancer or traumatic conditions generate in man body an unknown hidden mechanism that structuring head – tail polar differentiation of embryonic bodies ,probably we no longer have to envy the salamanders , the secret could be pay attention in these structures that evoke life not death .PLEASE COMPARE THE IMAGES THAT WE IDENTIFY IN CANCER AND TISSUE UNDER EXTEME INJURY WITH THOSE THAT APPEAR IN THE cloth stagnant blood areas : are identical . our next step is the initiation of clinical trails in dogs with advanced cancer , we can isolate this embryonic bodies from human tumors isolate the order protein and translate this information to the cancer dog , we believe this embriogenic proteins can repair the DNA mutations of cancer dog tissue . then our interest is not directly in the shroud, simple we documented a characteristic pattern that appear in the shroud , not previously observed . Please check in the members of the editorial board of NATURAL SCIENCE . PLEASE SEND A MESSAGE TO OUR PEER REVIEW THAT EXPLAIN YOU THE REASONS THAT THEY HAD TO ACCEPT AND PUBLISH OUR ARTICLE KNOWING THE RISK BEING RUN T O PUBLISH AN ARTICLE THAT WOULD RESULT IN WIDE CONTROVERSY ….. finally my apologize for the grammatical errors. Thanks for the opportunity to discuss our research work in this scenario. Jairo diaz pathologist .
Why should I contact Natural Science? You should. And then you can provide the explanation.
Dr. Diaz, thank you for your participation. I for one realize that your theories and research, while controversial, deserve at least the effort to understand what they are. There have been many controversial theories for the formation of images on the SOT. Yours is hardly the wildest I have ever heard, believe me. I do not share the impressive academic credentials of many of the contributors to this blog. My father was a BSMT (bachelor of Science in medical technology, Geneva College, New Brighton PA class of 1962), and his concentration was in clinical chemistry. I still have his books and will use them to attempt to interpret some of your research. I will do my best to understand what I can, and continue to research what I don’t. I no longer doubt your absolute sincerity, and do apologize for my joke about the tortilla. You can imagine blogs like this get their share of pranksters. Some of the responses to your obviously sincere posting are in very bad taste, and unworthy of those who have stooped to this level. I think perhaps your theories are so controversial that many have been taken by surprise. I hope you will continue to contribute to this blog. I, for one, look forward to the contributions that make this blog as interesting as it is. Gracias mil.
Sorry, but speaking as someone who has also worked in a London University Hospital Medical School, with a spell in the late Professor Dame Sheila Sherlock’s Medical Unit included, to say nothing of the University of Pennsylvania Hospital School of Medicine, none of the above is cast in any recognizable language that could be described as scientific (or medical even). It is quite simply mumbo-jumbo.There is no place for mumbo jumbo in the world of science. Science is supposed to rid the world of mumbo jumbo – not act as a vehicle.
Mr. Berry, I am wearing a nice, even, coating of egg on my face, because I truly believed Dr. Diaz’s paper was a prank. In fact, being a native Spanish speaker, the pronouncement of his name sounds like “Herodias,” I was pretty sure I was right until today. Since the redoubtable Dr. Diaz has taken the time to offer an exposition of his theories, might you not refute him, scientifically, point by point? It seems rather easy to say “mumbo jumbo,” perhaps if you can explain at what points you disagree with him-specifically-we may all be able to benefit from your experience and acumen. It may take me a little time to digest, but I am certain it will result in a very interesting posting for one and all.
Sorry, but I would not know where to start. The language employed is simply impenetrable, and the shuttling back and forth between geology (as viewed through Google Earth), cancer and the Shroud is bizarre to say the least. It may be a feat of imagination, but it is not science.
Afterthought: they say there’s an awful lot of coffee in Brazil. I’m trying to remember what they say there’s an awful lot of in Colombia. ;-)
Hmm. Sorry you are not up to the challenge. I am breaking out a dictionary, some of my father’s old books on clinical chemistry, and am now in contact with University of the Incarnate Word of San Antonio to try to unravel what is sure to be an interesting study. When I understand it, perhaps I will disagree with it.. What I think is more likely is that I will come to a place, or places, where I believe he has interpreted data perhaps too subjectively. Either way, before discarding it entirely, I should like to look into it with a scientific point of view, and without prejudice.
William F.Buckley Jr. : “The purpose of an open mind is to close it, on particular subjects. If you never do — you’ve simply abdicated the responsibility to think.”
My cycle of opening and closing is complete. You are perfectly at liberty to take longer over yours.
Pattern recognition on objects or in nature is as old as the hills. It dates back to the Book of Revelation as far as the Turin Shroud Image is concerned, the latter behaving like an oversized Roschchach. The quest for pareidoliae on the long burial sindon was at his height in the 12th-13th c. CE with the Arthurian literature and quest of the Holy Grail (one of my research subjects). Jairo A. Diaz’s embryonic shapes are just a sequel… Actually, this is just fun in terms of archaeopareidoliae and plain paraidoliae.
Dr Colinberry did the same when [analyzed] the Lirey Pilgrim badge. Who he REALLY is to cast the first (or fifth) stones?
[I edited the last paragraph by replacing provocative/insulting phrasing with “analyzed.” Max, I don’t want to put your comments in pre-moderation. I would have to give up sleeping to keep up with you.]
Sorry for all the typos, I was writing in haste.
Dan, you let Jairo Diaz be insulted by CB (his usual provocations and insuts ‘it’s quite simply mumbo-jumbo’ etc).
You edited my last paragraph. Why didn’t you edit CB’s two last sentences (see #8), I’d very much like to know?
Max, I’m not going to be a playground monitor. Nor am I going to listen to tattling.
Can you JUST be fair?
Thank you for your reply and for clarifying the sincerity & intent of the article referenced in yesterday’s blog. Admittedly, I have not read the five sequential articles you mentioned above. I did read the paper referenced in the blog. One of the main issues, which I’m sure you can appreciate, is that the objectivity of pattern recognition is at best, controversial. This is a different technique than reading a number off of a machine or visualizing a radioactive band on a gel at a specific defined mobility in reference to a standard. Then again, pathologists are trained to critically observe specific details of tissues to decide if they are diseased or healthy. So, certainly within one’s own perspective.
In reading the (linked) article, there were figures showing embryonic patterns in scorch/patch areas. If no such fire had occurred, or the cloth had not been folded as such to create a template for the regularity/symmetry of such burn patterns, this would not be an observation. Is this really a property of the cloth, per se or just a result (“artifact”) of the cloth’s storage history? If a parallel cloth had been stored under exactly the same conditions, would the same patterns persist or is the suggestion that this is unique to the Shroud?
the discussion becomes more interesting between insulting words as is “ quite simply mumbo-jumbo” “the above is cast in any recognizable language that could be described as scientific “ “Diaz’s embryonic shapes are just a sequel “ “ awful lot of coffee in Brazil. I’m trying to remember what they say there’s an awful lot of in Colombia” “this is just fun in terms of archaeopareidoliae and plain paraidoliae.” do not worry, your insults do not bother me or will be to lose the north. instead thank you very much for the comments. Kelly Kearse you say and its correct : “pathologists are trained to critically observe specific details of tissues to decide if they are diseased or healthy” pathologists are essentially morphologists we analyze form, size, disorder, polarity, asymmetry patterns, patterns of repetition sequences, we have been trained to capture minute details within a global context. all knowledge occurs in base to pattern recognition, if you found similar patterns in dissimilar systems is because somehow there is connection between these patterns, one common denominator.” Diaz’s embryonic shapes” are real structures , cancer tissues produced you know, fetal proteins , AFP alpha feto proteins . ACE antigen carcino embryonary , ( you can consult IT IN your medical encyclopedia ) these are produced by the immature malignant tissues, we go forward , and believe its the result of the active presence of this embrtyogenic bodies in the micro environment of the tumor . “ Mary tortillas “ not really we used an inmmunostain marker enolase, that its present exclusively in presence of neural tissue ( PLEASE GO AGAIN TO YOUR MEDICAL ENCYCLOPEDIA TO COMFIR IT ) AND NTHE ONLY STUCTURE THAT CAPTURE THE STAIN ITS THE EMBRYOGENIC BODY … PLEASE READ OUR PREVIOUS ARTICLES .
what’s that ?…… these structures are real , we have more than thousand glass slides of malignant tumors where these structures are microscopically evident photomicrographs we documented in our article. These slides are at the disposal of anyone wishing to confirm it . but to our surprise this embryo genic bodies appear also in tissue that suffered great damage injury … Colombia its a country in war with guerrillas to our hospital arrive patients with affected by land mines with lower limb amputation with extreme tissue damage ,… who are the medical staff engage in revision this specimens pathologists,,
figure 7 ABCD ,of our article correspond to microphotographs of severe damage tissues area , you can observe clearly this embryogenic bodies , hidden biologic phenomenon previously unreported , this its not funny ( like say Max Patrick Hamon, pathologist ? ) its very serious : with great connotation , probably you and me and patients that suffer from extreme damage tissue like cancer are able to structuring these “ Diaz’s embryonic shapes “ that could generate regeneration damage tissues . please dear reader do the following exercise: take a small child and show him unawares “ Diaz’s embryonic shapes “ from our last article or from previously ones .you know children do not lie……probably tell you a “ little baby . Kelly Kearse you say: “ In reading the (linked) article, there were figures showing embryonic patterns in scorch/patch areas “ THANKS A GOD …. I you unlike others is able to to identify these embryogenic bodies in the shroud,,, but please pay attention in the images: embryonic patterns emerge specifically from stagnant blood zones ,,,,,, its blood … its real blood , blood that carries information about the last 9 previous hours to the death body … this man endure intense pain from trauma received trauma that generate rupture of vessels The formation of embryogenic bodies its trigger by extreme body tissue damage, rupture of vessels bleeding and the loss of the spatial organizational architecture of collagen and extracellular matrix From the blood and injured tissues emerge inflammatory cytokines that acti- vate stem cells, in principle this mechanism serve to re- pair process, but when this signal path way exceeds time and space, namely, the lesion is too chronic or too large, a reserve mechanism of embryonic protein its activates with cascading of interactions.
that this is unique to the Shroud? Not , in concordance with our findings, such patterns its structuring and trigger by extreme damage tissue injure The connection factor here is the extreme da- mage tissue that precedes the formation of these self- assembly patterns
as a pathologist I had to sign dailly death certificates of dying of cancer patients, using radiation and chemotherapy does not cure any cancer. therapies that even probably oncologists do not use themselves, true poisons derivate from Chemical warfare
what we intend to document here is how these embryogenic bodies are A predictable tissue response to injury and the clear exemplary representation is the crucifixion .
finally your insulting comments are welcome, and again thanks very much for this scenario to discus our cancer research work .
Methinks a mischievous colleague has been sprinkling something on the Professor’s cappuccino that is not chocolate (nor cocoa, unless misspelled)…
Jairo you wrote: “this its not funny” ( like say Max Patrick Hamon, pathologist ? )”.
Don’t you mistake me I was just referring to pareidoliae on objects or in nature. BTW I am not a M.D. but I am a biotherapist + psychopysiotherapist (cryptanalytical orientation) too (I already helped and supported a few people to cure themselves from cancer for free).
SORRY Max Patrick Hamon , BUT WITH THIS AVALANCHE OF INSULTS THAt I RECEIVED ANY MAKE MISTAKES. BUT LISTEN TO THIS:FROM NOW WHEN YOU… OR YOU…. OR YOU… SEE THE IMAGE OF THE SHROUD OF TURIN IN THE FUTURE , NEVER AGAIN WILL SEPARATE THE IMAGE OF THIS MAN FROM THE EMBRYOGENIC BODIES THAT EMERGE FROM THE stagnant BLOOD . DOCUMENTED FOR THE FIRST TIME BY A PATHOLGIST OF THE THIRD WORLD . THIS FACT MADE ME comforts and ALLOWS ME HOLD ALL INSULTS THAT I RECEIVED.
A nation with the 31st highest GDP in the world (just one behind Venezuela, and ahead of many European countries) is by no stretch of the imagination “Third World”.
Jairo, don’t you worry (especially about CB).
Compared to Dr. I. Colinsberry’s alleged “iconographic analysis” of the Lirey Pilgrim badge (see his blog), your recognition of embryogenic shapes/image patterns on the TS is far richer than his pseudoo iconographic analysis (which is very poor actually) of the LPB.
Jairo, have you ever thought to get initiated to amerindian chamanism (in terms of psychophysiomagic)?
thanks ,now our idea its in the future examination of the shroud , for reseachers , its request the evaluation of stem cell expression in the blood areas documented embryiod bodies , , thi its posible by th actual thecnology, injured tissues release abundant stem cells , this fact help prove that the jesus image its absolutelly real … ther are not expression of stem cells in paints .
Emanuela Marinelli informs us today that there will be a Shroud conference in Bari, Italy next year. Go to the link:
Further to the above, it is interesting to note that authorities from Israel (Amir Sandler/Geological Survey and Orit Shamir/Textiles) as well as from Sri Lanka (Vernon Cooray/Lightning/Lightning radiation/Uppsala University, Sweden) will be attending.
Mr Diaz, I suggest you focus your efforts on curing cancer, as you claim to be on the right track. Once cancer is cured then return to the Shroud parallels. The Shroud will still be here, but many cancer sufferers may not.
D. Piczek theorical physicist corroborates what we publish in our article she say : the shroud of Turin and the tomb signifies an unbelievable beginning ,,,, beginning this information translated into biology means the representative of life embryonic patterns, that its the patterns that we documented in the shroud of Turin for the first time in our article . , she continues : because in the depth of collapse event horizon there is something witch science knows singularity , this is exactly what started the universe in the big bang we have nothing less in the tomb of Christ than the beginning of a new universe .…we write : Our findings suggest the image of a crucified man on the Shroud of Turin is a real physical electromagnetic collision event in res- ponse to extreme tissue injury. I ask you what is the difference between what she says and we documented ? clearly is the same, with one diference she is a theorical l physicist that works with computer simulations mathematical formulas in an artificial world . our world its real visible measurable , replicable , reproducible , and predictable . pay attention she use the term the depth of collapse event we used physical electromagnetic collision event. Coincidence not . someone is helping us to you understand that our article means
Dr. Diaz will you be submitting any papers to the IEEE-ATSI conference of the Instituto Di Sindologia scheduled at Bari, Italy in 2014?
DEAR JOSIE TYNER.. YES I CAN …. TO MAKE THIS PROPOSAL … THE ONLY WAY TO PROVE IF FROM SCIENTIC· POINT OF VIEW IF “Diaz embryoid strcutures ” are real , its possible , how ? METHODOLOGY research in the blood areas expression of stem cells ,,,,, easy take example of the blood and verify its exist markers specific for stem clls … this methodology approch help researcherS to prove JESUS IMAGE ITS REAL ….. EXIST NOT EXPRESSION OF STEM CELLS IN PAINTS … THIS ITS OUR PROPOSAL … PLEASE HELP US TO DIFUSSION OF THIS IDEA BETWEEN SHROUD BELIVERS .
Le felicito por su valentía y estoicismo al defender sus trabajos pese a su “apariencia ficcional”, en exclusiva relación con la Sábana Santa.
¿Conoce las magníficas imágenes 3D de la Sábana del geofísico Thierry Castex?
Las imágenes de sangre y las imágenes de hematomas consecuentes a la flagelación parecen tener unos patrones morfológicos que se me hacen “extraños”.
Un cordial saludo
This really won’t do at all. I have now examined Dr Diaz’s paper in detail, and those of his observations which are true are very simplistic, and those which are scientifically complex are not supported by evidence. Trying to understand how the connection came to be made leads me to guess that because chaotic cell growth sometimes produces blobs that loosely resemble embryos, and because some vaguely embryo-like shapes can be seen in the burn marks of the shroud, there must be some connection. No such connection is established.
Section 1 is devoted to the observation of embryo-like shapes observed in irregular cellular masses. They range from the shape of a very early embryo with no observable limbs to an almost fully formed looking fetus with well defined wrists and ankles. In only one picture is there any evidence of an umbilical cord. So far, so unsurprising. These shapes could be found in any random assemblage of blobs. In spite of considerable care in discovering and photographing these shapes, there is no suggestion that they are, in fact, anything more than that. No evidence of spine, brain, bone or any organs is attested. Although some of the pictures shows a dark spot on the “head,” others show spots dotted around the body, and random separations and smudges.
Section 2 is devoted to materials (photos of the shroud) and methods (attempting to match shapes on the shroud to “prior morphological visualisation” – start with a vague shape and try to match it somewhere). It is a very short section and does not explain what the prior morphological visualisations were or how they were matched to shapes on the shroud.
Section 3 begins: “In horizontal position by extracting the central man that appears in the front image, we identify dark emission of central 10 -12 spectral lines.” This is nonsense. No evidence is shown of how the ‘central man’ was ‘extracted.’ If he was, and it is possible, then we could be left with the famous ‘bands’ which are usually explained as artefacts of the random distribution of different darknesses of the hanks of warp threads in the cloth. The term ‘spectral lines’ is genuinely meaningless in this context.
The next sentence is: “These spectral lines evince narrow alignment that delimiting head area and undergoes a curve, broadening at level of the lower extremities, this signify that some type of photon source energy its generate in the brain and decay slowly at distal level.” This is illustrated by a picture of the shroud, with 7 longitudinal lines sketched in stretching from wrists to ankles, spaced sufficiently widely to touch the patches on both sides, and 7 more from the top of the head to the stomach, closely spaced so that they fit within the frame of the hair. Allowing from translational difficulties, this appears to mean that Diaz observed dark lines radiating from the brain and widening out towards the feet. This observation is not illustrated in the paper, and the illustration which does accompany it does not show anything of the kind.
Now the paper takes off into wild speculation without any evidence at all, and in direct contradiction to every previous observation or explanation of the shroud, whether for or against authenticity. “Outside the main body man image there is no evidence of these spectral lines.” This is simply not true, as a glance at shroudscope will verify. “The spectral lines generate a hexagonal pattern.” This is also not true, as a glance at the paper’s own accompanying illustration will verify. “Other chiral pattern are identified in terms of helicity waves.” This is an attempt to turn the outlines of the big water stains into wave pattern, which is explained in the caption to an accompanying illustration as due to “electromagnetic field wave polarisation.”
Need I go on? After finding some vaguely embryo-like shapes, Figure 18 compares them to a couple of fully formed foetuses, complete with fingers and toes.
It really won’t do.
God day, I would like to continue TO explain in this scenario the defense of our published article … the title “Geometric triangular chiral hexagon complexes and clonal embryogenic body organization on the Turin Shroud crucified man image: A predictable tissue response to injury” Please forget for now the embryogenic patterns, “ Diaz EMBRYOGENIC STRUCTURES AND Mary T ortilas “ and concentrate for a moment m in the geometry that we documented ; Geometric triangular chiral hexagonal like crystal complexes ( GTCHC ) complexes. The description of these complexes is not new . we found it 7 years ago and was published in PLO SONE , WE FOUN IT IN CANCER TISSUES , READ AGAIN … in cancer tissues , how its possible the identification of order patterns in chaos like its cancer …. ?( please read our first article http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0001282 ), your body, our bodies are structured in basis of collagen protein , their molecular base its a quasihexagons t he study describes and documents self-assembly of geometric triangular chiral hexagon crystal like complex organizations (GTCHC) in human pathological tissues.The authors have found this architectural geometric expression at macroscopic and microscopic levels mainly in cancer processes. This study is based essentially on macroscopic and histopathologic analyses of 3000 surgical specimens: 2600 inflammatory lesions and 400 malignant tumours Based on the hypothesis of a collision genesis mechanism and because it is difficult to carry out an appropriate methodological observation in biological systems, the authors designed a model base on other dynamic systems to obtain indirect information in which a strong white flash wave light discharge, generated by an electronic device, hits over the lines of electrical conductance structured in helicoidal pattern. In their experimental model, the authors were able to reproduce and to predict polarity, chirality, helicoid geometry, triangular and hexagonal clusters through electromagnetic sequential collisions. They determined that similar events among constituents of extracelular matrix which drive and produce piezoelectric activity are responsible for the genesis of GTCHC complexes in pathological tissues. This research suggests that molecular crystals represented by triangular chiral hexagons derived from a collision-attraction event against collagen type I fibrils emerge at microscopic and macroscopic scales presenting a lateral assembly of each side of hypertrophy helicoid fibers, that represent energy flow in cooperative hierarchically chiral electromagnetic interaction in pathological tissues and arises as a geometry of the equilibrium in perturbed biological systems . Pathological tissues are an excellent means of analyzing chaos states and molecular disorder, and identifying order expression through geometry and mirror images in the core of this biological environment, it is a unique fact
In a collision state, electromagnetic field generates electrons, and ions split-up and take opposite trajectories and travel to the boundaries of the system where the particles twisted 360° one of another, and appear as mirror images. In physics this is determined as chirality, and chirality is a property of most of the biomolecules. This means the biomolecules are able to produce mirror images. This is one of the vital characteristics that are seen in pathological tissues, polarization from its side induces chirality,
NOW please observe , not the image of the man that appear in the centrall core of the shroud , but around it : WHAT you observe are patches and stagnant blood , , please observe the patches ,….. what pattern has the patches? Easy …. Triangular pattern …. Observe the organization of these triangular patterns , its is random ? … not . ..it is organized in chiral patterns that its mirror images,,, can purely fire make this spatial order …?? Not
What type of energy generated this order .. spatial order? But please observe in our article the figure 9 and 10 . you can observe that 4 perfect triangles generate in the cloth a hexagon pattern strategically framed by the position of four triangular mirror images. Geometry that perfectly delimits the man body background.
How explain that a man body are structured in the interior of a perfect spatial hexagonal formed and delimited by perfect order spatial location of 4 triangles … how explain this visible order ? by fire ,,,,, scientists who have analyzed so far have focused exclusively in the shroud man image f without placing attention un the patterns that appear around the main image .
What we observe here around the body it’s the expression the we called irreducible geometry matrix . generated by the piezoelectric activity of collagen This is the intelligent design that nature selects to generate order from disorder. These are not flat geometry; on the contrary, it has surfaces and volumes and is essentially functionaL , geometric order occurs through magnetic field activity In this magnetic domain are attraction and repulsion forces that interact continuousl This law is the only way to explain the elaborate and structured art-like mosaic images that have been documented which means that there is a nexus, that is, an active intercommunication between these geometries that neither needs to be adjacent nor close . In this fractal geometry, the distance of the particles is irrelevant because the entangled pairs are created. When pairs of triangles were identified they become visible and identifiable structures. hidden variants exist and they become visible only when pairs are created. We believe that pair components influence the other component of the pair system even when apart. This communication behavior may come into play by virtue of a strong attraction developing between the colliding partners. that triangular geometric pattern represents for less the way to reorganize disturbed systems This complex is fractal always evolving into more complex geometric hexagonal structures over time-space intervals. It is a predictable and reproducible dynamic system. It is identified on systems in states of disorder regardless of the type of system involved. It has an invariant morphology with sets of triangular mirror images in opposite positions n conjunction with the dimensional organization of intelligent functional geometry it is determined that an invariant single common denominator pattern can drive multiple change scenarios that emit the precisely shaped signals necessary to incorporate notions of location control.
Accordingly, the geo- metric patterns in the cloth appear to be younger than the spectral lines, the embryogenic bodies and the man im- age complete the end sequential space time energy sce- nario and are younger than the geometric complexes, indicating that the collision surface spectral lines geo- metric complexes and embryonic bodies were structured in a sequential way.
Its this only theory?, “ bad science “ munbo jumbo” “ mary tortillas “ difficult to prove a profesor that “ Methinks a mischievous colleague has been sprinkling something on the Professor’s cappuccino that is not chocolate (nor cocoa, unless misspelled)…” ( colinsberry your attitude is not the problem the problem is in your brain that not have the sufficient synaptic connections to understand what we say you are a pathetic individual , ) sorry, continue,,
was necessary to prove to people like colinsberry that we are were not crazy or we were under the influence of substances like “ cocoa” according colinsberry … how to prove TO
colinsberry like brains that the existence of GTCHC COMPLEXES IDENTIFIED AT MICROSCOPIC LEVEL WERE REAL.? We had to JUMP FROM THEORY TO PRACTICE. How’???
REMOTE SENSING … Remote sensing is the acquisition of information about an object or phenomenon, without making physical con-tact with the object. In modern usage, the term generally refers to the use of aerial sensor technologies to detect and classify objects on earth, both on the surface and in the atmosphere and oceans. Satellite platforms, such as Google Earth, are valid scientific tools at the disposal of researchers in multiple disciplines
WE change our microscopy with a satellite platform , , if our theory was true we should find evidence of patterns and chiral geometry triangles hexagons in impact and collision of earth impact events . : physics laws are universal. What we found? .. with computer program and based on known patterns create a program with the algorithm known WE WROTE in open journal of geology Open Journal of Geology, 2013, 3, 187-200
doi:10.4236/ojg.2013.33022 Published Online July 2013
“Electromagnetic Field Released in Collision-Impact Events Generate in the Matrix Interface Fractal Scalable Invariant Geometric Triangular Chiral Hexagonal Structures”
In biology, cancer is the most beautiful natural model of a chaotic system, which under uncontrolled proliferations, generates extreme disorder that finally causes intercellular collisions. The authors have described and documented frac-tal self-assembly of geometric triangular chiral hexagonal crystal-like complex organizations (GTCHC) and interface comet tail effect patterns in cancer processes. According to this novel observation cancer incorporates a real visualiza-tion world with a great surprising finding in biology, physics, and geology. This visualization platform literally allows us to see what would otherwise remain completely invisible. From theory to practice this irreducible geometric matrix allowed us to identify in geology, real measurable green infrared-electromagnetic stripe line in interface with hexagonal geomorphic pattern, triangular chiral pyramidal rock structures, geology well defined mirror images, template platform to bio signature characterization of ancestral primitive polar head-tail organization, embryoid and human-like shape pattern embedded as giant fossils in rocks that have never been seen before. Electromagnetic field released in collision- impact events generate in the matrix interphase fractal scalable invariant order of geometric triangular chiral hexagonal structures. The laws of biology and geology can finally be redirected to the laws of physics; specifically magnetic fields create a new kind of classification based on these fractal structural similarities of the relationship. out to study these geometric self-assembly geological structures, ancient sediments and rocks that could provide insights into antecedents of life.
GTCHC COMPLEXES ARE REAL , DO YOU WANT TO OBSERVE IT AT MEGASCOPIC LEVEL ? GO TO THIS LINK doi:10.4236/ojg.2013.33022 Published Online July 2013
OBSERVE in geology, real measurable green infrared-electromagnetic stripe line in interface with hexagonal geomorphic pattern, triangular chiral pyramidal rock structures, geology well defined mirror images, template platform to bio signature characterization of ancestral primitive polar head-tail organization, embryoid and human-like shape pattern embedded as giant fossils in rocks that have never been seen before. OBSERVATION GENERATE NOT FOR A GEOLOGIST BUT FOR A PATHOLOGIST FROM THE THIRD WORLD …..
WHY THE EXPOSITION OF THIS EXTENSIVE EXPLANATION,,, FOR ONE REASON … OUR INTEREST IN THE SHROUD OF TURIN BORN IS TO IDENTIFY SIMILAR PATTERNS IN dissimilar systems , WE ARE FACE WITH A IRREDUCIBLE GEOMETRIC MATRIX PRESENT LIKE A RESIDUAL DETRITUS AFTER COLISIONS IMPACT EVENTS , NO MATTER HOW AT WHAT LEVEL THIS COLLISION IMPACT EVENT ITS OBSERVED … MICROSCOPIC, MACROSCOPIC , MEGASCOPIC … ALWAYS GENERATE GEOMETRY IN TERMS OF GTCHC COMPLEXES , we believe THAT IN this GEOMETRIC gestate PLATFORM TAKE POSITION THE PRIMORDIAL AMINOACIDS AND PROTEINS THAT START THE LIFE IN OUR PLANET , HOW WE ARRIVE TO THIS POINT … BASED IN CANCER RESEACH CANCER ITS A TIME REVERSAL MACHINE THAT PERMIT US AND DECODIFICATION OF THIS HIDDEN GEOMETRY . THANKS FOR YOUR TIME , OUR APOLOGIES FOR G RAMMAR ERRORS , THANKS AGAIN FOR ALLOW US DISCUSSION OF OUR RESERCH WORK IN THIS SCENARIO
I’m sorry Dr Diaz, but your explanation is still hopelessly unscientific and in most cases meaningless. I won’t comment on your medical observations, except that for a scientist to say something like: “Light and magnetism are reflections of the same substance,” in an introduction to some form of “Collision Event” theory is a disappointing start. There is no sense in which either light or magnetism are substances, nor in which they are reflections of any substance or each other. You go on to suggest that you made a model of light discharge over “lines of electrical conductance structured in helicoidal patterns.” If this means anything, it means flashing a lamp over some twisted wires carrying electric current. A diagram of your apparatus would seem to be a basic, even minimal requirement.
But no matter, I am happy to leave you to your cancer cells. What you can’t get away with is your description of, and deductions from, the shroud. The core of your argument begins: “please observe the patches ,….. what pattern has the patches? Easy …. Triangular pattern …. Observe the organization of these triangular patterns , its is random ? … not . ..it is organized in chiral patterns that its mirror images,,, can purely fire make this spatial order …?? Not.” You go on later to say: “scientists who have analyzed so far have focused exclusively in the shroud man image without placing attention un the patterns that appear around the main image.” This is simply not true, although it is possible that you have not read the articles by Aldo Guerreschi and Michele Salcito (at http://www.shroud.com/pdfs/aldo3.pdf and http://www.shroud.com/pdfs/aldo4.pdf) which comprehensively demonstrate how these marks, and the pattern they make, could have arisen without any need for the “piezoelectric activity of collagen.”
The whole of the rest of your paper seems to be based on the idea that all the patched holes appeared more or less independently of each other, with the shroud opened out. Some very confused ideas about chirality, reflection, piezoelectric effects, electromagnetic, helicoidal waves and quantum entanglement are adduced to explain what would indeed be a remarkable event, if it were not entirely adequately explained by folding the shroud up and sticking a hot bar through it.
This having been done, some water appears to have been poured through the damage, creating clear, dark rimmed stains just above each burn hole. These you liken to the heads of twin foetuses, and the area below them, which has no definition but is fortuitously bordered by burns and scorches, to their aborted bodies. I note with interest the distorted photo from wikipedia that you use to illustrate one of these “embryos;” and am disappointed that I can’t find the other one!
R.I.P. science – thanks to the open-access aka vanity press. :-(
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The gentleman uses the open-access PLOS-ONE in which to publish his bizarre potpourri of ideas. If folk here wonder how this mumbo-jumbo ever reached the light of day, then all they need do is consult the PLUS-ONE site to read what it means when it says that submissions are subject to “rigorous peer review”.
Rigorous Peer-Review (my italics)
“PLOS ONE will rigorously peer-review your submissions and publish all papers that are judged to be technically sound. Judgments about the importance of any particular paper are then made after publication by the readership (who are the most qualified to determine what is of interest to them).”
I am just one of those readers, and don’t claim to represent anyone’s views but my own. But having read – or tried to read – a sample of the gentleman’s ideas I quickly arrived at a decision as to its “importance”. (scientific importance that is) It is in my considered opinion unimportant.
I’ve now said all I felt needed to be said, and, having go that off my chest, so to speak, can get back to the science (or what I understand by science).
PS: I have made a blog post out of the discussion I had here recently, in the later stages with Dr. Kelly Kearse, on strategies for finding which carbohydrate constituents of linen are, or rather were, chemically modified in the Shroud’s image-bearing zones.
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THANKS VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS , OUR RESEARCH PRODUCCTION ARE “unscientific and in most cases meaningless” okay
FORGET THE EMBRYOIGENIC BODIES , FORGET THE GEOMETRIC COMLEXES
I would like to explain something about the perfect central spectral line that in reality its a group of lines which divides into two equal halves the individual’s body and still remains unaltered over time. we believe that the central line represent the mark left for a electromagnetic collision event , like a comet effect tail imprint left on linen by fast trajectory group of crystals , like a comet that left a tail. In their fast trajectory . and wrote our article title “ Intercellular cancer collisions generate an ejected crystal comet tail effect with fractal interface embryoid body reassembly transformation “ .. DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.2147/CMAR.S17402 journal of cancer management and research . COMET EFECT TAIL ? WHATS THAT? When BY EXTREME INJURY the tissue architecture collapses, fragmented components emerge, which reveal a hidden interior identifying how each molecule is reassembled into the original mold, using one common connection, ie, a fractal self-similarity that guided the system from the beginning. generate ejected crystal comet tail effects and produce strange helicity states that arise in the form of spin domain interactions. As the crystal growth vibration stage progresses, A biofractal echo images converge in a master-built construction. IS IT ONLY THEORY AND BAD FICCTIONAL SCIENCE ?
HOW TO TEST THIS ? TO PROVE THIS WE WOULD HAVE TO IDENTIFY AT MEGASCOPIC LEVEL A PERFECT VISIBLE SPECTRAL LINE GENERATE by A COLLISION EARTH IMPACT EVENT … WE JUMP FROM THEORY TO PRACTICE AND WITH THE REMOTE SENSING IMAGES , AND A COMPUTER PROGRAM WITH AN ALGORITM KNOWN WE WROTE IN OPEN JOURNAL OF GEOLOGY “ Electromagnetic Field Released in Collision-Impact Events Generate in the Matrix Interface Fractal Scalable Invariant Geometric Triangular Chiral Hexagonal Structures” Open Journal of Geology, 2013, 3, 187-200
doi:10.4236/ojg.2013.33022 Published Online July 2013
please we invite cordially to observe figure 10 of this article, that Show identification of novel megascopic collision event, Satellite image show close up of green stripe line 128 km ending in convergence with hexagonal geomorphic and circular structure bull’s-eye.( Please take the time to analyze this image)
Figure 11. A-D Satellite image show the geospatial effect interaction of the green stripe line over the surface terrain in terms of generation of helicoidally pattern throughout the trajectory of the line.
Figure 12. A Satellite image show the interaction effect that generate the green stripe line magnetic field in the terrain surface structuring invariant hexagonal pattern. B Satellite image show geology well defined mirror images at each side of the green stripe line trajectory.
THE PERFECT GREEN LINE THAT YOU OBSERVE ITS UNIQUE AND WAS CATURED BY THE INFRARED MAGENTIC SENSOR OF THE SATELITE PLATFORM .
THEn WE INVITE CORDIALLY TO SEE THE Figure 16. Satellite images show in the area of the impact an impressive beauty pair triangular geo chiral structures located 61.05 Km north from the primary impact. This monumental structure has not been revealed before. The principal structure is “without parallel”, with a height of 550 meters and a width of 645 meters; has a pyramid triangular shape with elevated plateau.
YOU CAN SHOW THIS MONUMENTAL GEOLOGIC STRUTURE NOT SEEIN BEFORE PLEASE OBSERVE THIS WONDERFUL CHIRAL TRIANGUALR GEOLOGI IMAGE Figure 17. A, B Satellite images show pyramidal triangular self-assembly geologic structure with their chiral counterpart adjacent side by side. Same dimensions but in inverted chiral position with apparent central excavation filled with water process. C, D, aerial photography close up image.
The green line its real … the beauty geometric geological structures that you observe are real, located here are located he re in the earth that you an me breathe. but still not finished please observe the last figure no 22 Figure 22. Aerial photography. A, show detachment of B, horizontal position of image C, illustrating Rock Human being geomorphic shape pattern. What you see here its a strange structure that we identified with biosig like a fossil sculpt in the rock .
The specific geographic coordinates of this place that we called hyperorderdomain remain confidential for obvious reasons.
N ow you dear reader understand that a identification of such patterns in a shroud of turin is not a casual identification but a causality process in witch converge a multidisciplinary observational approach in witch participate medicine biology physics and geology knowledgement .” unscientific and in most cases meaningless”
I’m sorry Mr Diaz, but I’m not that interested in speculative green lines on unidentified patches of Google Earth. I did find your first few ‘named’ craters, but did not agree with your observations. There are no “obvious reasons” for not identifying a “hyperorderdomain” and no, I do not understand “that a identification of such patterns in a shroud of Turin is not a casual identification but a causality process in which converge a multidisciplinary observational approach in which participate medicine biology physics and geology knowledgement.”
If you want some kind of dialogue about the Shroud, you could first explain why Aldo Guerreschi’s explanation for the marks you identify as embryos is untenable.
Hugh Farey : GOOD , PLEASE LET ME KNOW : ” Aldo Guerreschi’s explanation for the marks you identify as embryos is untenable.”
I mentioned these in my post above: http://www.shroud.com/pdfs/aldo3.pdf and http://www.shroud.com/pdfs/aldo4.pdf. Please read these and feel free to comment.
phan·tas·ma·go·ria. noun fan-ˌtaz-mə-ˈgȯr-ē-ə\. : a confusing or strange scene that is like a dream because it is always changing in an odd way.
Mr. I. Colinsberry, what about YOUR OWN phan-ta-ma-go-ria? What about your utter blindness as far as the LIrey Pilgrim Badge, the Pray Hungarian MS and your Mummy-Leech etc scorch theory are concerned? This is just talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
DEAR READERS , THANKS TO CARLOS OTAL WHO INFORMED US THE EXISTENCE OF SOME TURIN SHROUD 3 D images from the geophysics. Thierry Castex , its posible now observe ” Diaz embryogenic structures ” IN 3D fantastic in their full dimension ,unfortunately did not know of its existence previuosly otherwise would have requested permission to include it in our article please go to this link
PLEASE GO TO THIS SPECIFIC IMAGE I
New 3D Ventral View of the Front Side (August 2012)
make an approach, close up to the areas of stagnant blood and surprise…. surprise 3D embryogenic bodies .
PS: Carlos muy amable por su gran colaboración , magnificas imágenes.
I have never agreed so much with Colin Berry as I do here. I can’t believe what I’m reading. This paper is not science. I can’t believe it was peer reviewed. I suspect that it was not read by anyone at all at Scientific Research Publishing (SCIRP). A couple years ago, one of SCIRP’s journals, Advances in Pure Mathematics, accepted a paper written by a random text generator. SCIRP and its journal Natural Science are on Beall’s list of predatory journals. Also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Research_Publishing
Paulette, do you think Colin Berry’s alleged analysis of the Pilgrim badge, the Pray Hungarian MS and the TS bloodied image is big (analytical) Science? I repeat: Dr. I. CB’s criticizing Jairo is just talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
Max wrote: “Paulette, do you think Colin Berry’s alleged analysis of the Pilgrim badge, the Pray Hungarian MS and the TS bloodied image is big (analytical) Science?”
Okay, you got me. Colin is doing much the same sort of thing with the chain on the badge. Colin did not publish a so called scientific paper. I’m only talking about Colin’s assertion that there is no science in this ridiculous vanity press paper. I still disagree more than I agree with Colin.
MR . DAN , I dont know what its your professional activity, but exist one scientific way to determinated if the the called “Diaz embryogenic strucutures” are real ., is make on the shroud. research for stem cell expression , that its possible obtain from the blood of these specific documented areas , our proposal to future direct reserch over the shoud its this methodology approach . stem cells expression is not in paints .
Buenos noches, Dr. Diaz. Presentará cualquier documento en una conferencia o publicar artículos em sítios web?
our proposal is not only to present our paper, its present it to experts like embryologists pathologists, biologists , stem cell researchers in injury , damage tissue regeneration, and suggest in the future tests carryout in the shroud : investigate stem cell. expression.. that its possible with the current technology. ,. that would serve to reaffirm the authenticity of the shroud, clearly there are not stem cells in paintings , but are identified it in abundance at sites of extreme tissue injury ,
Is the Shroud of Turin in relation to the Old Jerusalem historical earthquake?
A. Carpinteri, G. Lacidogna, O. BorlaThe authors consider the possibility that neutron emissions by earthquakes could have induced the image formation on Shroud linen fibres, trough thermal neutron capture on nitrogen nuclei, and provided a wrong radiocarbon dating due to an increment in C146 content. the authors assume that a seismic event with magnitude ranging from the 8th to the 9th degree in the Richter scale could have produced a thermal neutron flux of up to 1010 cm−2 s−1. Through thermal neutron capture by nitrogen nuclei, this event may have contributed both to the image formation, and to the increment in C 6 14 on linen fibres of the Shroud
.What can I say? Pattern recognition on pictures of an old, dirty, wrinkled, mended cloth? Embryonic shapes? I can probably find any shape I want on this cloth. An electromagnetic collision event?
I’m sorry, Jairo, I read the paper. I’m not convinced,,, this paper confirm our observations published in october 2013 … MR DEAN WHATS ITS YOUR OPINION now NOW .?.. COLLISION EVENT ITS THE RESPONSIBLE of the strucutration of the turin shroud image . earthquake yes its the collision event of tectonic plates that generates radiation in terms of electormagnetic fields . enjoy the article in this link
An International Journal of Theoretical and Applied Mechanics AIMETA
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ACOUSTIC AND OTHER FORMS OF ENERGY EMISSIONS FROM FRACTURE PHENOMENA
Is the Shroud of Turin in relation to the Old Jerusalem historical earthquake?
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