On Dec 28, I had posted the following but could have posted a better choice of images (scroll down):
Ron writes by way of a comment to Waldemar Januszczak doesn’t think the Shroud of Turin is real, BUT . . . (Updated):
Re; Update- I would also guess Mr. Januszczak is not aware of the Christ portrait found in the catacombs in Rome dating around 300AD. Which by the way also bears a striking resemblance to face seen on the Shroud. Although dated to 300AD some believe it may be of an earlier date, possibly even the 1st century and quite plausibly painted by someone whom actually had seen Jesus.
Pictured: Bearded Christ from the catacombs of Commodilla ca. A.D. 302-303 at the time of the Diocletian persecutions.
So had the “Middle Ages invented this suffering, bearded Christ and then somehow found a clever way to imprint the image on the fake Turin Shroud,” as Januszczak stated it or had the ‘Middle Ages discovered this suffering, bearded Christ imprinted on the image on the real Turin Shroud?’
You decide. But I think the evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of discovered. Moreover, the style shift throughout the Middle East from Syria to Egypt was sudden and complete. I doubt it was because of creative invention. Rather, it was probably a compelling discovery.
However, I did not have the Bearded Christ that Ron was thinking about. He was kind enough to send that image along. Here it is:
And he added, “ . . . Notice the uncanny resemblance to the Shroud? But the best part is the dating of 300ad may possibly be inaccurate! As apparently, (I haven’t been able to confirm this) there were other etchings found near this painting, very reminiscent of very early Christian drawings, possibly late 1st century. . . .”
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Is it possible to specify the catacomb where and when exactly this painting has been found?
The picture seems to show some Vignon characteristics, such as the square/triangle complex on the forehead, but the low resolution does not permit accurate observation. Quite remarkable also, the hand with the thumb not shown, and with very long index.
It is situated in the catacomb of Saints Marcellinus and Peter, Via Labicana, Rome. You can find a reference to it on Wikipedia, under ‘Depiction of Jesus’. Although they describe it as being a mid 4th century fresco, I have read it to being early 3rd century also, but these dates are being contested as being much earlier. It is quite interesting that I also noticed the detail of the hidden thumb, but not the long index finger and I did not take notice it’s distinction till now…well done.
R
I’ve also read somewhere that it was dated from the beginning of the 3rd century…
According to this link
http://www.tradizione.oodegr.com/tradizione_index/vitesanti/marcellinopietro.htm
the figure of Christ is part of a fresco with the saints Marcellinus and Peter also shown. These martyrs are said to have died in the year 302
According to this link
http://archeoblog.net/2008/apertura-straordinaria-catacombe-ss-marcellino-e-pietro-a-giugno-2008/
one can get a guided tour in this catacomb.
It is a wonderful painting. Remarkably, it is not depicted in “Le icone di Cristo e la Sindone” (by Coppini & Cavazzuti; 2000) that I have read just a few days ago.
It is a remarkable painting isn’t it?
R