Russ Breault writes:
The Real Face of Jesus will re-air on History Channel on Dec 22nd at 10AM and 4PM EST. Not sure if it is airing in other countries. Here is the link:
http://www.history.com/shows/the-real-face-of-jesus/episodes
Russ Breault writes:
The Real Face of Jesus will re-air on History Channel on Dec 22nd at 10AM and 4PM EST. Not sure if it is airing in other countries. Here is the link:
http://www.history.com/shows/the-real-face-of-jesus/episodes
I have watched the video and noticed that some of the experts support the idea of a burst of energy. They follow the line of the discussions on the Shroud in which those supporting the energy/radiation field theory, tend to attribute the source of that energy to a supernatural effect (Fanti) or a byproduct of the resurrection (Jackson, Russ Breault). Another theory supports the authenticity of the Shroud also, but the image formation mechanism is attributed to a natural chemical reaction (Millard or other). It could be said that the supporters of radiation/energy hypothesis tend to think that the source of that energy is not “natural”(roughly speaking)
However, an energy based mechanism could better account for the 3D effect, since in general, intensity values of radiation/energy fields tend to be lower the higher the distance to the source is.
Nevertheless, there could be a natural explanation for the source of that energy. In Israel, on the average, about every 100 years, there is an important earthquake http://www-e.openu.ac.il/geninfor/openletter/ol18/pages4-10.pdf and in Matthew 27:51 we can read “And behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth shook and the rocks were split”
Several very serious scientific papers (*) indicate that strong magnetic, electric fields and corona discharge effects do take place in the frame of earthquakes. The local geomagnetic field seems to play an important role. If we have a look at the geomagnetic field near Jerusalem (http://models.geomag.us/wdmam.html, either the pdf or the KMZ file for visualization in GoogleEarth can be downloaded) we can see that in a very small distance the polarity changes abruptly from high positive to negative anomalies. (By the way, it seems curious that ancient Holy places like Jerusalem, Rome, Gizah exhibit strong positive or negative values of their geomagnetic field).
Nevertheless, there could be a natural explanation for the source of that energy. In Israel, on the average, about every 100 years, there is an important earthquake http://www-e.openu.ac.il/geninfor/openletter/ol18/pages4-10.pdf and in Matthew 27:51 we can read “And behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth shook and the rocks were split”
Several very serious scientific papers (*) indicate that strong magnetic, electric fields and corona discharge effects do take place in the frame of earthquakes. The local geomagnetic field seems to play an important role. If we have a look at the geomagnetic field near Jerusalem (http://models.geomag.us/wdmam.html, either the pdf or the KMZ file for visualization in GoogleEarth can be downloaded) we can see that in a very small distance the polarity changes abruptly from high positive to negative anomalies. (By the way, it seems curious that ancient Holy places like Jerusalem, Rome, Gizah exhibit strong positive or negative values of their geomagnetic field).
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(*) Papers
Giovanni P. Gregori. Geoelectromagnetism and geodynamics: ‘Corona discharge ’ from volcanic and geothermal areas. Physics of the Earth and Planetary Interiors. Volume 77, Issues 1-2, April 1993, Pages 39-63
Electromagnetic Field Anomaly Associated with the 1998 Seismic Swarm in Central Japan. Y. Fujinawa, K. Takahashi, T. Matsumoto, H. Iitaka, S. Yamane, T. Nakayama, T. Sawada and H. Sakai. Physics and. Chemistry of the. Earth ( Vol. 25. No. 3, pp. 247-253, 2000)
France St-Laurent , John S. Derr , Friedemann T. Freund. Earthquake lights and the stress-activation of positive hole charge carriers in rocks.Physics and Chemistry of the Earth 31 (2006) 305–312
K. Tennakone .Stable spherically symmetric static charge separated configurations in the atmosphere: Implications on ball lightning and earthquake lights. Journal of Electrostatics 69 (2011) 638-640
The conclusion could be that in the frame of an earthquake, with a natural strong local geomagnetic field, the corona discharge could be responsible for the formation of the image, BUT the source of that energy would not be supernatural, but a perfectly natural mechanism.
That’s what Fanti once said (even if he think the explanation lies more on the resurrection event). To believe that idea (of an earthquake producing an image like that on a cloth), someone must have more faith in miracle than to believe it is due to some form of energy coming from the resurrection itself…
And concerning this eternal debate about the image formation process, I think the best thing we can conclude is that, in the present state of our knowledge of the Shroud and keeping in mind that all the different natural hypothesis have NOT been fully tested yet, I think we can say that the image formation process is still unknown for the moment BUT that doesn’t necessarily mean that is was due to some unnatural or miraculous process. I think it’s the very best conclusion that we can draw for the moment, until a new series of direct tests could be performed on the cloth and until new laboratory experiments could be done to test every possible image formation hypothesis. More work need to be done to be able to conclude something different that what I just said. Much more work…
I think even Ron can agree with me on this conclusion ! ;-)
Yannick, please have a look at the set of experiments carried out by Giovanna de Liso with images obtained in earthquakes and presented at the 2010 Conference hosted at ENEA
http://www.acheiropoietos.info/proceedings/DeLisoWeb.pdf
You can see an alternative hypotheses for a natural explanation of a source of radiation in Dr. Silverman’s interview on http://www.shroud-enigma.com (formerly shroudTV.con)
Dear David,
what kind of medicine is Dr. Silverman practicing? I have attended his presentation at the Frascati meeting in 2010 and I have listened to this interview. I am baffled by the connections (if any) he is making between the Shroud and the physic he is describing. He does mention many other researchers’ findings (Lavoie comes to mind), but I do not see what he is bringing new as precise physic descriptions related to the Shroud. As for his descriptions of time vs mind and space, I think they are simply plays on words and basic concepts of the Special Theory of Relativity. His description of Quantum Mechanics vs consciousness is quite unrelated to the Shroud and is more baffling than enlightening, not to mention that he is giving a typical discourse of extrapolating the meaning of Quantum Mechanics in domains that were never intended for it. I do not see how his descriptions on consciousness/mind/body/time is related to the Shroud besides perhaps as a pastoral methodology, but I very much doubt it.
Best regards.
I remain VERY skeptical about those images in the sense I always said before : making images on linen is very easy. But making images on linen with the very same exact chemical and physical properties of the Shroud has never been acheived (as I know). I’ve not read the article yet (don’t worry I’ll do it soon), but I don’t think they acheived the same exact image properties because this article didn’t get much attention (I wasn’t even aware of it). If those images would really be like the Shroud, I think this article would have made more noise… Personally, I don’t think those experiments are searching in the right direction, but of course, it’s just my own opinion and I can be wrong with my feeling. Remember that I really believe that nature can be really surprising sometimes. So, who really knows ?
Oh, by the way, when you’ll read Rogers book, he talk longly about all those Corona Discharge hypothesis and show with very good arguments that all those hypothesis are VERY VERY unlikely (to stay polite). It’s not me who speak, it’s Rogers. But I trust what he said about that.
My thanks to Russ Breault and Dan ofcourse, for posting the this next airing. I’ll make it a point to mention it to most all I know!….Just hope the History channel airs it up here.
R