Adapted from older postings
When, in the context of the Shroud of Turin, we start talking about the Resurrection, it is important to define what we mean. It is all too easy to assume everyone, whether they believe in the Resurrection of Christ or not, shares our understanding of the word. This is particularly so when we talk about using the Shroud to try and prove the Resurrection is real.
Around eight years ago, Ellen Painter Dollar, a frequent contributor to publications like “Christianity Today,” “Sojourners,” and “Patheos,” penned a thought-provoking article titled “Why We Need the Resurrection.” This article is currently featured on the website of St. James’ Episcopal Church in West Hartford, Connecticut. It reads, in part:
But the resurrection is a hard sell. It looks an awful lot like wishful thinking. Dead bodies don’t just up and walk around, asking for breakfast and appearing in locked rooms. What really happened that Sunday morning?
Of course, we can’t know for sure, but theologians have spent centuries taking a stab. Some say that the disciples experienced some kind of prolonged shared vision—not a hallucination that existed only in their minds, but a vision tangible enough, real enough, for disparate people to agree on what they were seeing and hearing. They saw and interacted with something real that looked and walked and talked like Jesus, that was Jesus, but was something other than Jesus’s cells and organs and protoplasm resuscitated from the grave. The resurrected Jesus’s body didn’t behave the way bodies usually do—take the locked room appearance, for example, or that he appeared to different people in different places around the same time. Scholars point out that when Paul defends the resurrection in 1 Corinthians 15, he links his own experience of seeing a powerful vision of Jesus on the road to Damascus with the first disciples’ post-resurrection sightings, implying that he thinks they had the same sort of vision that he had, rather than an interaction with an actual dead body that was no longer dead.
Other theologians have said, no, it’s not that complicated. The resurrected Jesus was not some kind of vision. Jesus’s body was dead and lying in a grave, and then it was alive. Thomas put his hands into the wounds, after all. The resurrected Jesus ate, walked, and talked. Why would a vision need to eat? Anglican theologian N.T. Wright argues that Paul knows how to write about a less tangible, more metaphorical resurrection, such as when he writes about believers gaining a new life as a result of baptism. When he writes about the resurrected Jesus, Wright says, Paul is not being metaphorical; he is describing what happened. Paul contrasts the buried Jesus with the living Jesus, implying that they are one and the same.
So was the resurrection a literal resuscitation or some kind of vision? Theologian Marcus Borg argued that it doesn’t matter that we know exactly what happened. He rejects a literal resurrection of Jesus’s dead body, but also hesitates to say that something “mystical” or “spiritual” happened, because in our scientifically oriented culture, calling something purely “spiritual” tends to diminish its meaning. He says something clearly remarkable happened in the resurrection, whatever the mechanism. He also says it’s clear that the disciples experienced Jesus as alive in a concrete, transformative way. Borg wrote,
The central meaning of Easter is not about whether something happened to the corpse of Jesus. Its central meanings are that Jesus continues to be known and that he is Lord. The tomb couldn’t hold him. He’s loose in the world. He’s still here. He’s still recruiting for the kingdom of God.
That’s pretty much where I come down on the resurrection too. Something clearly happened that transformed a bunch of bumbling, dejected disciples into people of steady conviction willing to travel the world preaching good news, and die for it if necessary. I don’t need to know exactly what happened, or understand exactly how it happened, to allow myself to be transformed by the resurrection.
How might we envision the Resurrection?
My favorite envisioning comes by way of a Catholic priest, the pastor of a large New York parish and very much a skeptic-of-the-Shroud of Turin.
Dematerializing is not resurrection. Nor is exiting the tomb. Nor is it animation. Resurrection is very much also about being conscious, being aware and being awake. If you wish to prove Resurrection you must prove everything about it. . . . I see a glorified Christ rising, first just to his knees while he prays to our Father, then victoriously upright, his burial wrappings now turned into brilliant colorful robes. In fact, in my mind, I don’t think the Resurrection happened in the tomb at all. Jesus was buried in a tomb and indeed the tomb was empty on Easter. But Christ, in my imagination, awoke and rose to his knees and then his feet in the garden near Mary Magdalen. Why not?
(AS RECALLED)
When miracles are considered within a religious tradition, they are often seen as divine interventions that may not be fully comprehensible within the limits of human understanding or natural laws. In other words, by their very definition, miracles are phenomena that we wouldn’t expect based on our understanding of the natural world.
However, the belief in miracles often doesn’t stem from a direct comprehension of how they would be possible, but rather from an understanding of their implied significance or effects. Though I am not Catholic, but Anglican (Episcopalian in the United States), I put great stock in the Catechism of the Catholic Church when it says:
No one can say how it came about physically. Still less was its innermost essence, his passing over to another life, perceptible to the senses.
Catechism of the Catholic Church (#645)
To me that says not entangled with nature, unaffected by and not causing radiation, energy, atomic interactions, or testing the constructs of theoretical physics.
Saint Thomas Aquinas offers us a useful analogy from his seminal work, “Summa Theologica,” and his study of angels. Aquinas argued that angels are incorporeal beings, composed only of spirit, with intellect and will. They don’t occupy physical space in the way that ordinary humans do, but they can appear in physical form to humans when necessary for their divine missions, as seen in numerous biblical accounts. They can manipulate matter and interact with the physical world, but their true nature remains spiritual. When going from place to place they do not pass through the in-between nor take time to do so.
If this is so for mere angels, why not the risen Christ, as well. Why can he not be where he wills whenever he wants: in the locked upper room, on the road to Emmaus, in front of Mary, on the road to Damascus? He has no need to dematerialize or transition to other dimensions or travel through wormholes. He is . . .
not limited by space and time but able to be present how and when he wills
Catechism of the Catholic Church (#647)
Corpus in spiritum et spiritus in corpus
This I believe: There are no moments, no arrows of time in a miracle. Time explicitly does not exist. There is no moment when a miracle has started but not yet ended. There is no moment, for instance, when water is in the process of becoming wine. There is no moment when carbon atoms, that do not exist in water but are essential to wine, are becoming carbon. The carbon, normally found in the wine we drink, was created sometime well after the Big Bang in red giant stars, which in their dying, compressed with enough force to fuse a helium-4 nucleus with a beryllium-8 nucleus. It made its way into our gravitation trap over eons, to our earth in particular, well before the first plant or creature emerged. We and good wine share some very ancient atoms.
Madeleine L’Engle, the author of “A Wrinkle in Time” and other Christian books for children, would go about playfully telling her young fans that she was made of stardust. They thought she was being joyfully silly. She was not. Carl Sagan put it very well: “The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.”
To my way of thinking, there are two ways to change water into wine: 1) nature’s way which includes crushing and fermenting grapes or 2) God’s way at Cana, which ignores nature altogether and is beyond our ability to comprehend.
Jesus said to them, “Fill the jars with water.” And they filled them up to the brim. He said to them, “Now draw some out, and take it to the person in charge of the banquet.” So they took it. (NRSV)
What was water is suddenly wine. There was no swapping in and out of atoms or molecules or anything. There was no process at all. Water was water and then it was wine. There was no moment when the water was becoming. Scripture, if you take it quite literally, seems to be intentionally telling us this.
Can we imagine fish and bread forming by atoms pouring in from someplace over the horizon during the feeding of the multitude? Or was the food just there as needed? It seems starkly free of any process. Are we to imagine a process when a man’s eyesight is being healed, partially healed after one second and the rest of the way healed after two, three, four?
I’m guessing that the Resurrection is supra-conceptually so. I’m thinking, a gazillion times more amazing.
If the Resurrection is real and it was physical, which is what I believe, then it seems to me that Jesus’ body was in the tomb and then it wasn’t. He did not walk out, fly out, stream out, dematerialize, go through a wormhole or visit some other dimension. Nor did a cloth fall through a mechanically transparent body; there was no motion at all since there was no time for that. There was no vacuum where Jesus had been, not even for an instant. And since there was no time, which nature requires, there was no radiation or any anything. There was no process of resurrection. From nature’s point of view, and history’s too, there was only a before and after.
I personally believe that all these definitions (and yours, too) are acceptable. But which one do you mean?
If the Shroud is the real deal, then I think the image was not caused by the Resurrection; it was not caused by energy or radiation or anything like that. It would be more like the wine at Cana; the image there on the cloth miraculously by no means other than the will of God. That, it seems, is more affirming of the Resurrection then our many attempts at made-up science.
I was thinking about this very question a few days ago. If Jesus was truly human/had a physical body and suddenly was no longer in the tomb, we should be able to address/analyze the disappearance in rational terms. I can’t get on board with the “meta-historical” concept of some theologians. Unless that includes a possibility of a miracle. I also can’t get on board with Dan’s “no time in a miracle” concept. If a miracle happens in our physical reality, we will experience a beginning and end of it.
Let me raise a pedestrian example of an ordinary event in our physical reality. Say a person is crossing the street in a crosswalk (hence this being a “pedestrian” example:). Say that we have multiple people, including eyewitnesses, videographers and photographers. They all watch and record a person crossing the street. If all these people then describe this experience to another group of people who had not witnessed it and ask them to express what they’re observing, chances are pretty good that everyone would say something along the lines of: “this is a person (at a specific place and time) crossing a street in a crosswalk.” Chances are no one bring up the possibilities of teleportation or a time-slip being involved (granted, some people would entirely exclude these as even possibilities).
Now, in the case of the Shroud, let’s assume that Jesus had a real physical body and was placed in a real physical tomb at a specific place and time. At some point, which no one actually witnessed, the body was no longer there. Presumably, if there had been witnesses, videographers and photographers (we’ll provide with the necessary lighting for the sake of this argument), they theoretically would have been able to experience in time seeing the body there and then not seeing the body there, no matter how short a time it may have taken. Naturally, it’s crucial to the story that there were no actual witnesses, human or otherwise (unless one asserts that the Shroud itself was a witness). History (not meta-history) records that the apostles claimed to have seen Jesus after his death, told people they saw him, and most of them willingly died rather than deny that. If they did that, we need to be able to describe (perhaps without ever being successful), how Jesus’ body was there one moment and not the next.
I think Gary Habermas just finished his magnus opum on the Resurrection, which was about 5,000 pages if I’m not mistaken. The Resurrection has always been, and always will be a mystery. No doubt it’s the same with the Shroud. And since the former is definitely about Jesus, and the latter is presumably about Jesus, people will always try to link the 2 in myriad ways.
Given the myriad questions about both, it almost doesn’t leave time to study anything else, does it? But, if anyone thinks they will be able to fully resolve either, they would be better off finding something else more resolvable.
I was thinking about this very question a few days ago. If Jesus was truly human/had a physical body and suddenly was no longer in the tomb, we should be able to address/analyze the disappearance in rational terms. I can’t get on board with the “meta-historical” concept of some theologians. Unless that includes a possibility of a miracle. I also can’t get on board with Dan’s “no time in a miracle” concept. If a miracle happens in our physical reality, we will experience a beginning and end of it.
Joe, not necessary.
The ressurection problem resembles a bit an old Schrödinger’s cat experiment in quantum mechanism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat In this problem we put a cat in a closed box with a radioactive source. If there is a radioactive decay, cat dies. But WHEN does this happen? We cannot exactly say.
Similarly, according to the Gospel account, Jesus’ body was put in a closed tomb late Friday. The tomb was opened early Sunday, and no body was there. But when did the body disappear? Who knows exactly? Is it possible to know exactly. This is the old measurement problem. In quantum mechanics, the uncertainty principle says you cannot exactly measure both the time and energy. Likely the disappearance of mass too.
Joe, we are, metaphorically and metaphysically, in the weeds. I completely agree with your last sentence. More so, perhaps. So long as we are in the weeds — and I see no way out — few will buy into a notion of an omnipotent God kicking off a body snatching “process” that results in “vertically collimated” radiation (or energy), in just the right measure (exposure and time), to make mostly negative but slightly positive images. Does Occam apply? Common sense?
Twenty-five percent of American Christians don’t believe in a physical resurrection. I do, but as a matter of faith. I might even think the Shroud is real but as a matter of faith. But I can’t put the two together in a real world, thought-to-be-scientific way.
Resuscitation – the action or process of reviving someone from unconsciousness or apparent death.
Jusus resuscitated 3 people (brought their souls back from Paradise)
After resuscitated they acted like normal humans
Resurrection – in Christian belief) the rising of the dead at the Last Judgement
Mark 12:25 New International Version
When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.
Jesus resurrected – after resurrection he acted like an angel.
Hi Hemraj,
I’m a little confused. Can I confirm that you think Lazarus was unconscious or apparently dead, but not actually dead?
And can I confirm that you think unconscious and apparently dead people’s souls can be in Paradise?
Best wishes,
Hugh
Good Morning Hugh
Lazarus was dead but his soul was in Paradise. According to New Testament, after the death Jesus’s soul was also went to Paradise and also the soul of the Thief.
Regards
Hemraj
Thank you, Hemraj;
So if Lazarus was actually dead, and his soul in Paradise, he was resurrected by Jesus, not just resuscitated. Is that right?
In Polish language the distinction is clear:
wskrzeszenie -the cases of Lazarus, daughter of Jairus, son of the widow of Nain. Return to normal ordinary life like before, with expectation of second death.
zmartwychwstanie -the case of Jesus.
I agree with most of what Dan has said here. And Joe’s point about miracles able to have a transition of time depending on the miracle being performed is also valid. For example, the “miracle of the sun” reported at Fatima and at Medjugorje by various witnesses has a moment when the sun/sky changes and a moment when all goes back to normal. In the interim, visual phenomena also consume some amount of time. In my own experience, weeping statues and crucifixes in and around northern Virginia in 1991-1992 had a measurable time when that was occurring. (See “The Seton Miracles: Weeping Statues and Other Wonders” (1993, 4th ed. 1998). But the “how” of it all is outside the laws of science as we can understand them in our universe. Speculating on how radiation or “spiritual energy” or any chemical or botanical element might have produced the Shroud image seems to me a great waste of time EXCEPT in this regard: it does eliminate natural or human causation as the means by which the Shroud image was created. In other words, we can’t understand how God did it, but we can understand that humans and/or natural forces were not capable of doing it according to the evidence in the Shroud itself. That answers the crucial query: is the Shroud image a miracle testifying to the existence and providence of God? Investigations such as those of STURP can also validate the reality of the Shroud as a burial cloth of a crucifixion victim by finding evidence of blood and other bodily fluids as well as confirming that the Shroud’s image conforms to characteristics of a crucified human being. Anomalous elements such as the carbon-14 dating results, some of McCrone’s claims, and even the medieval bishop who asserted that the Shroud was fake and he knew who had created it can be particularly bedeviling (no pun intended) because it can be very difficult to prove a negative. But I believe the years of analysis and reporting by experts have discredited all three of these challenges.
In discussing the Resurrection, the Catechism in para #643 states
it …”cannot be interpreted as something outside the physical order.”
I understand this to mean that God brought about the Resurrection using an element or elements of the physical universe in ways we do not comprehend and may well never comprehend.
BUT, that does not automatically dismiss scientific theorizing about the way in which already known elements (light, radiation, energy) might have been used by the Creator to bring about this unique event and leave evidence of His effort on the cloth.
Isn’t this just another example of how scientists use the scientific method to learn more about the world? Isn’t this how scientific progress is made?
I’m intrigued by this type of research and find the possibilities posed by it more persuasive that the medieval forgery theorists regarding the Shrouds authenticity.
Let the research continue!!