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From out of the strong came forth the sweet?

August 15, 2015

imageColin Berry tells us in his posting with the unwieldy title Is the Shroud of Turin really just 18 years short of its 2000th birthday? SEE THIS BLOG FOR A DAILY ACERBIC OVERVIEW OF CURRENT WRANGLING (currently 2015, Week 33):

This posting rep0rts what this blogger/retired science bod considers to be significant progress in modelling the “Shroud” image, so as to reproduce more of its allegedly  ‘iconic’ and/or “unique” properties (negative image, superficiality,  3D properties, fuzzy border, possibly even some of those so-called microscopic properties.


Topic 3: Here’s Dr.Positive (science bod) calling a certain Dr.Persistently Negative, he who dishes out his “science” as if medicine to treat disease. This is an important posting, probably the most important from my years of “Shroud” research, and it’s dedicated to the man with the  prescribing tendency.  Why? Because his negative nitpicking, from countless sniping  and indeed hostile comments and, especially his snipingg- from-cover pdfs, were what spurred me to switch from imprinting with flour paste/slurry to imprinting with dry flour. Check out these results for (a) that “Shroud” like fuzzy image by which he sets so much store (rarely if ever considering the effect of age-related degradation) and to (b) 3D properties (which he flatly claimed lacked 3D properties, unsupported by data, and which I demonstrated yesterday to be false).

First, the new improved fuzzy-look image, obtained using flour dust as imprinting medium, colour development with a hot flat iron*  or in  a hot oven, and a new 3rd stage (image attenuation by washing with soap and water).

(*Late addition: it’s probably the hot iron – its pressing action being responsible for the coloration being confined mainly to the crowns of the weave. Microscopy is in progress, but needs careful evaluation).


Tone -reversed negative of dry-flour imprint, 3D-rendered in ImageJ. Note the relative lack of distortion, compared with the wet-flour imprint in Topic 2.  Dr.Negative please note.

Not bad eh?  One is put in mind of that biblical quotation based on the bees around the deceased lion (“from out of the strong came forth the sweet” or words to that effect, even if the biology is suspect) …  from out of the negative came forth the positive…

Eh! But what say you all?


In the Judges 14 we find Samson travelling to the land of the Philistines in search of a wife. During the journey he killed a lion, and on his return past the same spot he noticed that a swarm of bees had formed a comb of honey in the carcass. Samson later turned this into a riddle at a wedding: "Out of the eater came forth meat and out of the strong came forth sweetness".

12 Then Samson said to them, “Let me now propound a riddle to you; if you will indeed tell it to me within the seven days of the feast, and find it out, then I will give you thirty linen wraps and thirty changes of clothes. 13 “But if you are unable to tell me, then you shall give me thirty linen wraps and thirty changes of clothes.” And they said to him, “Propound your riddle, that we may hear it.” 14 So he said to them,  “Out of the eater came something to eat,  And out of the strong came something sweet.”  But they could not tell the riddle in three days.

15 Then it came about on the fourth day that they said to Samson’s wife, “Entice your husband, so that he will tell us the riddle, or we will burn you and your father’s house with fire. Have you invited us to impoverish us? Is this not so?16 Samson’s wife wept before him and said, “You only hate me, and you do not love me; you have propounded a riddle to the sons of my people, and have not toldit to me.” And he said to her, “Behold, I have not told it to my father or mother; so should I tell you?” 17 However she wept before him seven days while their feast lasted. And on the seventh day he told her because she pressed him so hard. She then told the riddle to the sons of her people. 18 So the men of the city said to him on the seventh day before the sun went down,  “What is sweeter than honey?  And what is stronger than a lion?”  And he said to them,  “If you had not plowed with my heifer,  You would not have found out my riddle.”

19 Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon him mightily, and he went down to Ashkelon and killed thirty of them and took their spoil and gave the changes of clothes to those who told the riddle. And his anger burned, and he went up to his father’s house. 20 But Samson’s wife was given to his companion who had been his friend.

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  1. August 15, 2015 at 5:00 am

    About 2 years ago I found this blog at which time I made my initial statement saying that I understand how the image was formed. I come back to it from time to time to see if anyone else has even alluded to certain aspects of the shroud necessary to understanding it. I’ve yet to see even one. The closest anyone has come is the theory held by Isabel Piczek. However, through no fault of her own it is a very far cry from being a total explanation. In fact, just a few months ago I inadvertently found her theory one day on line and was pretty much taken aback by what she said. If you read what she said and what I wrote in my book, Thirteenth Apostle: The Coming Transubstantiation 14 years BEFORE she even developed an interest in the Shroud it would raise some eyebrows. I am NOT saying that she knowingly or unknowingly took what I wrote and expounded on it in her own way but it would be hard NOT to at least entertain the idea. Except for the placement of one or two words, literally, our explanations, at first blush, are identical. However this placement of words makes a difference that is immeasurable………………[contact information removed]

  2. Hugh Farey
    August 15, 2015 at 7:57 am

    The relentless seeker after truth, in whatever its guises, speaks…

    It appears possible to buy The Thirteenth Disciple; The Coming Transubstantiation, directly by Paypal, from Michael Jude’s site: http://shownamystery.com. However, although it is not mentioned by name, clicking on the Pay Now button leads directly to a PayPal request for $15 (presumably including postage?). I am reluctant to pursue this, as I am not convinced the book actually exists. Although it has an ISBN number, and a publisher, it is not available only from any booksellers, new or used, or ebay. The publisher is Dimi Press, of Oregon, many of whose other works are readily available. The book is mentioned on Google Books, as by Michael J. Felock, published by Morris Books, but it never appears to have been printed, and an application by Michael J. Felock to have “13th Apostle” trademarked has been abandoned.

    The book appears to have been published in 1997, which is not 14 years before Isobel Pikzek “developed an interest in the Shroud”, but considerably later. I think it unlikely that she could have copied Mr Felock’s work since it seems so extraordinarily hard to find anyway.

    In a more recent YouTube plug for his book, ‘Michael Jude’ claims that while exploring Freemasonry he discovered, by chance, that “the book, once again, contained, complemented and answered, certain Masonic teachings that dramatically effect the general understanding of the physical origins of man and other aspects of his being such as the ability of sight, memory and consciousness, for Masons and non-Masons alike.”

    Well, Michael, that’s as far as I’m prepared to go. If you want a little more recognition for your revelation, you need to make it available. Forget the money, it was never going to make your fortune anyway. Put the whole text of the book on your website and we’ll give it the same generous consideration that we do for the papers of Louis, di Lazzaro, Fanti, Hines and anybody else who cares to write one.

  3. Miquel Madueno
    September 2, 2015 at 11:20 am

    And they could not in three days declare the riddle. So he said to them, Out of the eater came something to eat, And out of the strong came something sweet.

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