The Shroud in the Northeast Megalopolis

imageKelly Kearse writes:

Back home from holiday traveling and wrote this up, which I’d like to submit for consideration to be posted on the blog-thought some might find it useful/interesting. . . .

Merry Post-Christmas & Happy New Year,

So here it is. I had no idea:

The Shroud in the Northeast Megalopolis

For those who might be traveling or live in the Northeast United States, especially in the northern NJ/NY and Philadelphia areas, there are several Shroud-related stops that may be of interest. The first two are located in northern NJ and are within approximately 30 minutes of each other. The third is in Philadelphia, a few blocks adjacent to the National Shrine of Saint John Neumann.

Holy Face Monastery, located at 1697 State Route 3, Clifton, NJ.

The monastery sits atop a hill at the end of a cul-de-sac within a residential neighborhood that is adjacent to Route 3 in NJ, and offers an impressive view of the New York skyline in the distance. Inside the chapel, on both sides of the altar are large displays of the front and back images of the Shroud. Above the altar there is a gold-leaf mosaic that is based on the Shroud’s facial image. Additional Shroud photographs and images are found in an adjacent side room. Services and lectures pertaining to the devotional aspects of the Shroud are given regularly throughout the year.

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Monastery of Our Lady of the Rosary, located at 543 Springfield Avenue, Summit, NJ.

At the back of the chapel is the True Copy painting, a full-size replica of the Shroud painted onto linen, which is displayed vertically in a glass case that allows viewing of both sides of the cloth. The copy was made in 1624 and features numerous details including bloodstains, water stains, scorch-marks, and patches. It is the only (painted) copy of the Shroud that is known to be in existence in this country. What makes this replica especially treasured within the religious community is the fact that it came into physical contact with the Shroud. Accordingly, it is stated that “when it was removed it was found that the side wound, as seen on the Shroud, had become damp as though with blood, and this effusion had stained the copy”. Also mentioned is that “in 1987, scientists from the STURP team affirmed the stain was indeed that of human blood and of the same blood type as the Holy Shroud”. [I searched fairly extensively on the internet and made several contacts a few months before visiting, but was unable to determine the details of these studies-KK]

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Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception, located at 830 N. Franklin Street, Philadelphia, PA.

Inside the church, visitors have the opportunity to see one of only nine authentic full-length replicas of the Shroud that have been officially sanctioned by the Vatican. The replica is on exhibit at the front of the church on the right, and when not displayed for viewing, is covered with a white cloth. Next door to the church is the Treasury of Faith Museum, which contains a special exhibit of Shrouds and Shroud-related paintings that were used throughout the history of the Ukrainian Catholic Church.

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The Shroud was the Resurrection?

imageAnnette Cloutier, author of Praey To God: A Tasteful Trip Through Faith writes:

Have you read James Tabor’s book yet Paul and Jesus?

I think you can then figure out better how the resurrection stories developed.

I do still believe as Loken and deWesselow have stated that the Shroud was the Resurrection.

Tabor bases his resurrection theories mostly on the VISIONS of Paul. I think Paul was blown away by his private observation of the Shroud and went bonkers. Mark writing about three and a half decades after Paul (c 80) then went into the Jesus Family Tomb for his characters.

As far as the Empty Tomb is concerned… I also believed Mark invented it. Tabor does not… he believes that the body was stolen as was rumored to have happened the rumor being reported by Matthew. I believe the rumor was the result of Mark’s Gospel… not of the actual circumstance of an Empty Tomb.

There’s a lot of invention and creativity with storytelling… especially one writing as skillfully as Mark. But there sure is nothing more creative nor inventive than the Shroud. Anyone can see it had not been made by “human hands”.

Happy and Exciting Blogging New Year!


Annette’s book on

David Rolfe, some hip dude in England

Bailey Packard, who prepared this great 23 minute video, writes in Shroud of Turin: Faith, Science, & History Come Together on a Piece of Cloth:

Probably the newest and coolest Shroud website with lots of great videos – The Enigma of the Shroud of Turin done by some hip dudes in England.

Hat tip to Joe Marino for providing information about this video

Do Unto Others as St. Columba Would Do Unto You

imageWe’ve discussed copyright here on occasion. And Colin Berry has accused me of piracy and Barrie Schwortz of unseemly something or other. Well, read on for some perspective. Matt Rubinstein has an interesting article in The Australian Book Review called Body and Soul: the age of the electronic book: Copyright law and enforcement in the age of the electronic book:

The most precious manuscript held by the Royal Irish Academy is RIA MS 12 R 33, a sixth-century book of psalms known as an Cathach (The Battler’), or the Psalter of St Columba. It is believed to be the oldest extant Irish psalter, the earliest example of Irish writing – and the world’s oldest pirate copy. According to tradition, St Columba secretly transcribed the manuscript from a psalter belonging to his teacher, St Finian. Finian discovered the subterfuge, demanded the copy, and brought the dispute before Diarmait, the last pagan king of Ireland. The king decreed that ‘to every cow belongs her calf’, and so the copy of a book belonged to the owner of the original. Columba appealed the decision on the battlefield, and defeated Finian in a bloody clash at Cúl Dreimhne. No trace remains of Finian’s original manuscript, if it ever existed. Only ‘The Battler’ survives.

The sword is mightier than the . . .

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Important aspect of flax fiber microstructure and Rogers’ “ghosts”

imageAn interesting conversation seems to be developing with A.A.M. van der Hoeven (Adrie) and Colin Berry on Colin’s site. But first, leading up to it, Colin asks, in End-of-year brain-teaser for Shroudies: I challenge you to explain this apparent contradiction…

How can the Shroud image be described as ultra-superficial, too thin to have been formed by any conventional form of energy (thermal imprinting etc) -  having presumably negligible effect on the integrity of the fibre as a whole – only to be told that fibres that bear that image are mechanically-weakened across the entire cross-section – so much so that they BREAK EASILY?

This is in reference to a quote in a JIST Paper, Microscopic and Macroscopic Characteristics of the Shroud of Turin Image Superficiality (A Google Docs Reprint), by G. Fanti, J. A. Botella, P. Di Lazzaro, T. Heimburger, R. Schneider and N. Svensson.

Image-area tapes (pressure sensitive adhesive tapes used by STURP team to sample the TS) “lifted" more easily than non-image tapes suggesting that the topmost fibers in the image area were somehow weakened; the linen fibers seen on the body-image tapes are shorter and more fractured than arc those from nonimage areas.

Colin continues after showing this quote:

And here’s a clue to some potential weak points in a flax fibre.

To what do the three arrows point?  Thicker, maybe, but  potential fracture locations?

To what do the three arrows point?
Thicker, maybe, but potential fracture locations?

imageFurther clue: note this fascinating observation in one of Adrie’s papers (pdf) [that would be “Internal selvedge in starched and dyed temple mantle — No invisible repair in Turin Shroud — No Maillard reaction” by A.A.M. van der Hoeven]:

Note that the ghosts are also continuous over the joints of fibre cells – also called growth nodes – which seems to suggest the ghosts weren’t (only) primary cell walls. The thickness of the ghosts (200-600 nm) perhaps also precludes that they only consist of the primary cell wall of the linen. More recent experiments estimated the thickness of the colored layer to be 200 nm +/- 200 nm; a primary cell wall would be only about 200 nm thick.

Thanks Adrie. Yours is one of the few informative statements I have been able to find so far in this important aspect of flax fibre microstructure, especiallly as it related to Rogers’ “ghosts” – to say nothing of that allegedly “impossible to account for” image superficiality.

Liar, please abandon this foolishness

imageThomas Stielau comments on Carbon Dating News in 2008. This is in response, I think, to a comment I made on April 23, 2009.  Stielau should probably read the release he links to before calling me a liar:

If you are in fact an expert or even a person particularly interested in the shroud you would already be aware that the shroud was indeed retested in 2008 and I am left with no choice but to call you a liar.

Here is the link to the news release of the second test dated to 25th of March 2008 on the university of Oxfords official website:

Please abandon this foolishness.

Just before posting I noticed that Hugh Farey responded to Stielau. He said it better than I might have:

Dear me. It’s not clear that you have read the news release to which you refer, or seen the film associated with it. This test was done on pieces of modern linen, not the shroud, which had been ‘contaminated’ with carbon monoxide, to test the hypothesis that such contamination seriously distorts radiocarbon dates in general. It was found that there was no appreciable difference between contaminated and uncontaminated linen, and the hypothesis was rejected. I’m not sure who you think you ‘have no choice’ but to call a liar, but I am sure you will be pleased to know that another option is in fact available. Foolishness? Not, it seems, on the basis of your comment. Happy New Year!

Okay, now. Back to reality.

A Collection of Ray Rogers Quotations

Yannick Clément sends along a new collection of Ray Rogers quotations:

imageI give you in attach file a PDF document that contains 131 different quotes from Ray Rogers that were taken from 6 different papers (5 of them were written by Rogers himself) and also from his book!

I don’t think I have forgotten too many relevant quotes concerning this most important topic regarding the Shroud and I truly believe that all your readers (as well as all the Shroud researchers, from the SSG or not) should take the time to read all those quotes in order to have a better view of the real situation regarding the Shroud’s image. I also believe that this new paper should be used along with the one published by Thibault Heimburger in last August. I really think that if someone takes the time to read these two papers one after the other, he will definitely have a great view of what an expert like Ray Rogers thought about the body image that is on the Shroud.

You can go read the quotes or click on “More” to read the rest of Yannick’s transmittal email.

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First Shroud Encounter Presentation for 2013

imageRuss Breault writes to let us know:

SHROUD ENCOUNTER comes to Roberts Wesleyan College in Rochester, NY on Monday, January 14 at 11:00 AM and 4:00 PM in the Hale Auditorium at the Roberts Cultural Life Center. Admission is FREE. Send this video to all who may be interested in attending this fascinating presentation.

Here is a link to a video promo for the presentation.