A reader writes:
We have been taken on something of a ride across a desert on a horse with no name. Prof. Dr. Max Patrick Hamon has stirred up a dust cloud and nothing else.
The professor is an archaeocryptologist, which according to him is someone who is an ancient enigmatic image, inscription and artefact analyst and cryptanalyst. This wasn’t clear so I tried to find it in the Dictionary Of Occupational Titles but without success. I then read a description of the Office of Studies and Research ArchéoCryptologie because Dr. Hamon is the founder and director. Can anyone explain what dowsing exploration and ES detection by consensus map (intuitive archeology) has to do with this field of endeavor? Dowsing? Using a divining stick? ES? Extra Sensory?
Prof. Hamon tells us that he has discovered that the Filas, Whanger and Maroni identified coin images are not there and that he can prove it, optically and numismatically. DO SO!!!
He claims on the other hand to have found a blood decal image of a Pilate coin. SHOW US!!!
It seems rather unfair to come to a public forum to make claims about intriguing patterns on the eye areas that are supposedly substantiated in a paper that no one can read.
I suggest that Prof. Hamon, you, Yannick and the others give it a rest until Dr. Hamon produces a paper. Will it be possible to get the paper peer reviewed by another archaeocryptologist? Is there a journal?
Was a paper to be published after Turon, Poland? Does anyone know?
There are many an approach in archeaeolgy and cryptology. Through all history men and women used to recur to their intuitive faculty. Early Christians themselves used to reccur to what is called intuitive archeaology. Many an archaeologist do recur to such a technique but there are very few of themt o admit it. What dont you look up for intuitive archaeology?
Intuitive Reasoning and reasoning intuition, ever heard of?
I often rely myself on intuition and I think it’s a good thing even in science. Intuition can be useful in science to bring us into new areas of research, to search where nobody have ever thought to search. BUT… What do you do with logical thinking ??? It’s also important and, until science can prove or dismiss those images, I think the logical thinking should be preferred than some intuitive thinking. It’s just my personal opinion.
I am sorry Max. We should be talking about facts. This means a scientific approach not an intutive one. Are your results reproducible or not? Where are the photos you have used? Can other scientists repeat all the process following state-of-the-art methodologies or not? I am sorry, intuition is not a valid methodology in this issue. We should not be wasting our time discussing obvious things. By the way, criptology is a science based on mathematics and linguistics, not on intuition. Once you have let us know your methodologies, I am afraid I cannot give any credit to your current and past claims any longer.
PS: Is it here where the wise king (l’Shlomo) had his wineyard (Kerem)?
Yes
By the way, I do need a rest from this forum, dont’t you think? However, one has to remember, they are discoveries which are to be revealed by stages… If you do remember, It all started which Yannick harrasing me with questions… Maybe was it ill advised of me to offer the first page of my Torun paper. I dont know. You know.
Harrasing you ? Come on ! Be fair : It all started with some very logical argumentations that I wrote against all those ghostly images that some think are on the Shroud… The fact that you enter the debate is your freedom. Don’t blame me after that if I defend my point of view ! It’s not harrasement at all. And, by the way, debating of ideas like that, when it is done with respect, is always a good thing because it forces everyone who read the posts to THINK and REFLECT on the subject.
I do love, ftrom time to time riding a horse accross the desert to leave the Bab al-Khali, dont you? Ma’a al-Salam kul enn-nass wa Allah twr! Yallah!
I meant Bab al-Khala, the Gate of Empty Space (in Arabic)
I use intuitive archaeology only for field researches, dont you mistake me. I used other approaches and methodologies depending on the specific problem to solve.
Yannick, you were such a half-truth, received-idea, biased analysis and pseudo-theory all-around champ, I had to intervene and offer the first page of my Torun paper to make you realized you were totally off-track. I failed and I dont blame me.
Ha ha ha ! This comment don’t deserve a reply.
In intuitive reasonning/reason is the word REASON implying Logic. You should asked “Albert” (EINSTEIN) about it! He was quite a Champ at it!
But sometime, intuitive reasonning (like you say) is not logical at all. We get great examples of that in the last few days… I think a good intuitive reasonning must be, at least, based on some logic and, sorry, but Roman coins over the eyes of the man some believed was the Jewish Messiah is not logical at all. And I don’t even talk about THE FACT that the burial rite wasn’t completed on friday night when they left the tomb, knowing full well that they had to come back to finish the job on sunday… Why do you think they came so early on sunday if it wasn’t because they had to open the tomb and enter in this place (where a body was lying dead for at least 36 hours) to finish the burial rite ? Sure, they wouldn’t want to extend the delay more than that because they were fully aware that the body would start to rot in the next few hours (or maybe they even add some fear that the rotting process would be already in place)… Not a joyful task as you can imagine ! That tells alot about the fact that those Jews were very pious and they really wanted to respect the prescriptions of the Law. It’s not the kind of portrait that goes well with Hellenistic Jews, don’t you think ? So, I think you can forget about the pagan rite of the coins over the eyes. A clue like that tells you that the Jews who took part of the burial of Jesus were surely pious Jews who didn’t believed in things like paying something to be able to cross the Styx river !
NO COMMENT! DONT YOU BLAME ME!
Mentioning A RIDE ACROSS A DESERT ON A HORSE WITH “NO NAME”, just say a big hello to captain “NEMO”!
To the reader I just would tell him in Aramaic:
éphrâym ravo o ahad m-aouphrym lé-apharym
and also to Paulus’ God with NO NAME!
say him a big Hello!