So why are we concerned with the Shroud? No this has nothing to do with it. But it is interesting. And it stimulates thought. Boyle, as he always does, has explained things very well. From MSNBC’s Cosmic Log Blog:
Alan Boyle writes: British physicist Stephen Hawking’s [pictured] latest book is already making waves with his observation that science can explain the universe’s origin without invoking God.
“Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing,” Hawking and his co-author, Caltech physicist Leonard Mlodinow, write in “The Grand Design,” which is due to be issued next week. “Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist. It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going.”
That’s the quote that lit the match in The Guardian as well in The Times of London, which published an excerpt from the book in its Thursday edition. But by itself, the quote doesn’t have much “there” there. If Hawking is saying merely that something can arise from nothing willy-nilly, that’s not much of an explanation for the origin of the universe.
What he’s actually saying in the book is that when we study the universe’s origins, we have to work our way back from the present, rather than assuming there’s an arbitrary point 13.7 billion years ago when Someone pressed the button on a cosmic stopwatch. And when you look at it that way, the universe looks more and more like a quantum phenomenon, in which a multitude of histories diverge. This is what Hawking calls top-down cosmology.
Space and time fizzle out, so it can’t be said that there is a time before the big bang — just as you can’t say that there is something north of the North Pole. (I’m talking “north,” not “up.”)
Gravity is part of the picture because it helps keep the cosmic balance sheet in line. Here’s the part of the paragraph just before the quote cited above: “Because gravity shapes space and time, it allows space-time to be locally stable but globally unstable. On the scale of the entire universe, the positive energy of the matter can be balanced by the negative gravitational energy, and so there is no restriction on the creation of whole universes.”
“The Grand Design” puts together ideas that Hawking has been trying out for a long time. Five years ago, for example, he noted that eliminating the question of what happened before the big bang meant “the beginning of the universe would be covered by science.” And four years ago, he joked that he had presented a paper suggesting how the universe began during the same conference at which Pope John Paul II asked scientists to set the question aside.
Does Hawking’s view mean that modern physics “leaves no place for God in the creation of the universe,” as the Times suggests, or that “God did not create the universe,” as The Guardian claims? Not unless you need a “God of the Gaps” to step into science’s place. A more sophisticated view would hold that physics (and evolutionary biology, to cite another example) are the not-always-mysterious ways in which God routinely works. In fact, Soren Kierkegaard would say that God’s workings have to be transparent — and I tend to side with Soren.
Some will argue that such a concept of divinity is so weak it should be sliced away with Occam’s Razor. Others will quote chapter and verse to support their claim that religion trumps science. And still others will argue that science and religion should be non-overlapping magisteria.
But hey . . . Read on and comment at Cosmic Log – Hawking says God’s not needed. So?
A question to Physicist Stephen Hawkins.
How His theory will tell difference between a living human Body and a dead human Body. Gravity is all the time existing….but something is missing from the dead human body. Existence of God can explain it. Let your theory explain it.
It’s just the Man of the Shroud, I believe, Who has all the answers about the mysteries of the Universe we need.
There is no effect without a cause. If the Universe began by itself, only following the physical laws, then one would ask” From where such laws came out?”
‘Law’ means ‘order’and the chance only accounts for disorder, not order.
This is so that scientists today attempt to “recriate” the Big-Bang in the CERN by means of order (the action of human minds) and not by chance!
I utterly agree with comments from Noya and Tersio and despite we’re dealing with Universe creation and Big bang phenomenon I guess we can establish a parallel reasoning with the Shroud of Turin.
May be in a near future science will be able to conclude what made de image that is to say determine what caused chemical change on tha thin polysaccharide layer around topmost fibers of the fabric, nevertheless even if a kind of mechanism for example corona discharge ocurred in a given moment and may account for that effect there will be a lotta questions without answer.
What caused corona discharge? Why so called by products of that or other phenomena caused those chemical changes?
Why those chemical changes resulted in an image effect with such weird charactristics as Shroud of Turin’s image? Did that effect ocur just by chance?
I’m sure science won’t answer these questions and like in Big Bang the only logical and right answers will be God and Resurrection
regards
Maria da Glória
Centro Português de Sindonologia
Media hype aside Hawking has said nothing new in this latest statement. But it’s naive theology which places God in a creation situation requiring a before and after – ‘time’ as we know it is a creation too.