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John Klotz Issues a Challenge: Show Me an Image

July 26, 2014 58 comments

A reposting from Quantum Christ Image by John Klotz
(with permission)


A Challenge to the Skeptical Community: Show Me an Image

imageI have a challenge to those skeptical of the authenticity of the Shroud of Turin, Show me an image comparable to the Shroud of Turin at least five centuries old. It doesn’t have to be of Christ or have any relationship to religion. It can be of anything.

I am in the process of completing a manuscript with a current working title of: “The Coming of the Quantum Christ: The Shroud of Turin and the Apocalypse of Selfishness.”

It includes in the large part, the scientific study of the Shroud of Turin. Some weeks ago I challenged a skeptic on Dan Porter’s   Shroud Story blog to show me an image of sufficient relative antiquity that has similar characteristics as the image on the Shroud of Turin. I do not recall ever receiving a response. So now I the challenge to the larger skeptical community:

Show me such an image of that was in existence no later than 1500 CE [AD]. I choose that year as the cut-off because I believe no one can seriously dispute the existence of the Shroud by that year.

Not a painting. Painted images do not qualify because I submit that from one thing established by the Shroud of Turin Research Project (STURP) in 1978 and by additional research since that time, is that the Shroud is NOT a painting. Sorry Walter McCrone fans. In one of my chapters I cite Harry Gove’s initial impressions of McCrone when he first met him. They are not complimentary.

So here’s the challenge: direct me to an image currently in existence that was created prior to 1500 CE that has features comparable to the Shroud. That would include at a minimum:

  1. A depth of the image no greater than the outer shell of a fibril of linen. The image of the shroud is such, or even more probably, a darkening of by-products left on  the linen from the  retting of it by methods dating back to BEFORE 1000 CE but I won’t quibble about a measly 500 years;
  2. Sufficient definition (resolution) of the image to allow determination of important features of a human body to the extent those are determinable from the Shroud image;
  3. Difference of various parts of the image intensity to allow interpretation as a three dimensional object.

I am serious about this. My final chapter is 18; The Challenge of the Shroud and if anybody has a relevant image, I will comment there or maybe in a relevant earlier  chapter with proper attribution.

You may respond to this posting to QuantumChristImage.blogspot.com. Warning, I am looking for a specific item: an image that has the characteristics of the Shroud image that predates 1500 CE. It does not have to be of Christ. If you  wish to direct me to such image please respond. However, I  will delete argumentation about my criteria which fails to cite an image which matches the criteria.

John Klotz’ Approaching Book on the Shroud

June 26, 2014 9 comments

clip_image001As most of you know, John Klotz is a regular participant in this blog. He has in these last few weeks been working to finish up his book on the Shroud of Turin. A theme, an "Apocalypse of Selfishness," is intrinsically a part of the book. With that in mind, he has turned to his blog, Quantum Christ, to republish something he wrote in 1972.  Here is the beginning:

The following piece was written by me in 1972 as a part of my studies for my Master’s Degree in International law.of International Law degree at New York University. In concerns the prospect of prosecuting ocean polluters as for international crimes just as we prosecute pirates. The first section: The Death of the Ocean the Mother of life seems particularly relevant to environmental crisis we face today that now threatens the humanity with an "Apocalypse of Selfishness."

Reprinted from The International Lawyer, Vol.6, No. 4, October 1972 Page 706 
Copyright 1972 American Bar Association

Are Ocean Polluters Subject to Universal Jurisdiction: Canada Breaks the Ice

By John C. Klotz*

A.      The Death of the Ocean – Mother of Life

      Until now, human development has proceeded on the assumption  that the earth and its resources were created for the use and  exploitation by mankind, and were so plentiful that little  thought need be given to their ultimate exhaustion.(Nte. 1) In terms  of ecology, man’s economic theories have advanced little beyond  those of the Stone Age: "slash and burn" agricultural communities  who roam the world’s tropical forests, slashing and burning trees  to create small plots for cultivation, and when the soil is soon  exhausted, moving on to another part of the forest to slash and  burn again.

      Similarly, modern man has exploited the resources of the  earth with such reckless abandon, that the human race is now  faced with an ecological crisis of unbelievable complexity. We  now know that the earth’s resources are limited, with the points  of exhaustion of many of the most basic resources near at hand,  and that exploitation and industrialization are exacting such a  fearful toll that life, as we now know it, may be doomed to  extinction.(Nte. 2)

      Perhaps the most obvious of the world’s endangered  ecological systems is the ocean.(Nte. 3) Ocean waters cover  four-fifths of the earth’s surface. Its interaction with the  atmosphere determines weather and climate and each influences in  many ways the composition of the other.(Nte. 4) Over 70 percent of the  atmosphere’s oxygen was created by ocean organisms.(Nte. 5) The ocean  is  an integral part of the world’s food supply and an important  communications link between the continents. Thus, the destruction  or alteration of the ocean’s ecosystems would threaten the  earth’s supply of oxygen, lead to the possibility of seriously  altered climates and threaten destruction of an important source  of the world’s present and future food supply.(Nte. 6)

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