Dave Kinsella just this week uploaded this video of Gary Habermas presenting “a convincing argument detailing the arguments in favour of the Shroud’s authenticity,” as he puts it. “I was skeptical til I watched this,” he adds. The video runs 44 minutes. It looks good. I disagree with several points, like the discussion of the coin images over the eyes.
It is a good talk. I’ve never seen it before and I don’t know when this was recorded.
How influential is Gary Habermas when it comes to the shroud?
I don’t know. But if you search YouTube for “GARY HABERMAS SHROUD OF TURIN” you encounter 2320 videos. There are, of course, duplicates. But it is also evident, just by the numbers, that Dr. Habermas is an influential speaker out on the circuit and on the Internet. By comparison here are two other YouTube search counts:
- BARRIE SCHWORTZ SHROUD OF TURIN: yields 4660 videos
- RUSS BREAULT SHROUD OF TURIN: yields 750 videos
If I search Google directly for videos thus:
- GARY HABERMAS SHROUD OF TURIN: I get 13,100 videos
- BARRIE SCHWORTZ SHROUD OF TURIN: I get 7,550 videos
- RUSS BREAULT SHROUD OF TURIN: I get 5,160 videos
Something seems counter intuitive here. Well, anyway, Habermas is influential. (We really should count views but I have other things to do with my life).
And who is Gary Habermas?
And here is something I posted ten months ago:
Swedish Parliament to Hear About the Shroud of Turin
October 17, 2013
Next, he presented six reasons that people can use for believing specifically in the Christian faith, listing them as follows:
- Recent documentations of miracle claims: referring to thousands of cases around the world of documented miracles, including those where medical doctors witness prayer healing people with severe physical disabilities.
- Double-blind prayer experiments: where people pray for others with terminal illness. Habermas admitted that most such experiments have not worked, but the three that he knows of that have indeed worked were cases of orthodox-Christians praying for the sick.
- Jesus as a miracle healer: the research professor noted that when he went to graduate school, most people did not believe that Jesus was a miracle healer, but that has changed and many scholars now believe in the real miracles presented in the Bible.
- Jesus proclaimed the resurrection beforehand: meaning that Jesus did not simply rise from the dead, but revealed beforehand that he would be resurrected. "It’s one thing to rise from the dead, but you claim double the significance of it if you told everybody what was going to happen ahead of time, which shows that you’re in control and know what’s going on," the apologist argued.
- Resurrection of Jesus Christ: Habermas said that "we are on the strongest grounds up here on the resurrection argument. Today, there are more scholars who believe that something happened to Jesus than there are those who believe that nothing happened to Jesus."
- Shroud of Turin: the apologist referred to an hour-long session he led on Friday about recent discoveries surrounding the Shroud, but admitted, "It deserves to be put on the board, at least now. It could be proven wrong tomorrow."
Habermas concluded: "We have got to get the world out there, because the challenge is there, naturalism is losing, and we need to see Christianity ascend, because we have the data."
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And here is a collection of postings in this blog about Habermas. His name appears 55 times in this blog.