Monica Saunders writes as a comment to Nutty Stuff Alert: Shroud of Turin & The Grey Aliens Again:
I have looked at all you have to say and listened and read what Nigel Kerner and Dr.Andrew Silverman have to say about the Shroud of Turin and it seems clear now that you are a silly old fuddy duddy locked into your own dee p set prejudices with nothing cogent to offer on the sub ject. I suggest you abandon your views on this because you are looking increasingly less credible and seem to have an axe to grind and a need to simply sound off.
I’ve read Kerner’s book and before you criticize anything you think he might have said – it is a work of scholarship that is as far as I can see, based in pristine reason and backed up by scientific papers. As such it is not a threat to shroud science but an enhancement of it. I’ve heard two interviews in which the two people you vilify discuss a presentation they made at a scientific conference on images such as the Shroud in Frascati Italy last year. This conference it seems involved distinguished scientists doing the latest work on the Shroud. So where are yo u coming from?
Have you read Kerner’s book? I would guess not. How scientific is it to rubbish a book without reading it?
No, I have not read Kerner’s book. Nor did I rubbish it. I was rubbishing what I heard on the radio program.
This silly old fuddy duddy doesn’t plan to read the book but I certainly hope other do. Here is a link at Amazon. Read everything on the page. Buy the book. It is available in print and Kindle. Write your own review. Here is the review from a verified purchaser that Amazon users have rated most useful:
This book is atrocious, one of the worst books I’ve ever read, but I read it in order to post a truthful review here. For about 1 to 5 pages out of 432 does it address the subject of the title. The rest is a metaphysical incoherent rambling without any proof whatsoever and judicious use of the Darwinist’s favourite statements, "Could it be perhaps…", "Is it possible that…". It even doesn’t explain why a robotic grey alien would want to have a soul, if it’s just a robot? How would it know what a soul is? The author also has the audacity to have a glossary of terms for concepts like a soul. I thought we already had a word for soul?
Then there is the tremendous anti white-Caucasian (as he calls them) racism in the book where he believes white-Caucasian superior technology and at times wanton cruelty is because of grey alien genetic manipulation (IMO, white skin is no proof of this!). He names anyone and anyone that was historically significant – Greeks, Italians, Spanish Portuguese, French, German, British and Dutch and so on. Let me remind the author of a few facts. The Asiatic Mongols, Asiatic Huns, Asiatic Ottoman Turks were amongst the cruellest people in all of human history. The Asiatic Japanese had a 27% mortality rate compared to a 4% for those "nasty Germans" (he mentions them more than once) in their respective POW camps. Of course we then have the amazing institutionalised racism of the Indian caste system. Other facts that escape the author include, the massacres of Rwanda and other African countries the fact that the Incas had an oppressive empire greater than Rome’s when the Spanish came, the fact that eight waves of succeeding Australian aboriginals wiped out the preceding one escapes the author too, when chastising Caucasians for their treatment of aboriginals. Maybe the author should move from central England and go and live in a place where there are no "evil white-Caucasians", but nah, I bet not?
Throughout the book, the author offers no proof, even whistleblowers or witnesses would have been something, of any of the preposterous assertions he’s formulated. The editor should not have allowed this book into print. I’ll be more wary of their books from now on.
I don’t know where the 4-5 star reviews came from, I really don’t?
Here is a product description from Amazon:
Exposes the agenda behind the bio-robotic grey aliens’ genetic manipulation of certain human races
• Reveals the Grey’s nature as sophisticated self-aware machines created by a long vanished extraterrestrial civilization
• Explains how their quest to capture human souls appears in the historical record from biblical times
• Explains how the phenomenon of racism is a by-product of their genetic tampering
In 1997 Nigel Kerner first introduced the notion of aliens known as Greys coming to Earth, explaining that Greys are sophisticated biological robots created by an extraterrestrial civilization they have long since outlived. In this new book Kerner reveals that the Greys are seeking to master death by obtaining something humans possess that they do not: souls. Through the manipulation of human DNA, these aliens hope to create their own souls and, thereby, escape the entropic grip of the material universe in favor of the timeless realm of spirit.
Kerner explains that genetic manipulation by the Greys has occurred since biblical times and has led to numerous negative qualities that plague humanity, such as violence, greed, and maliciousness. Racism, he contends, was developed by the aliens to prevent their genetic experiments from being compromised by breeding with others outside their influence. Examining historical records, Kerner shows that Jesus, who represented an uncorrupted genetic line, warned his disciples about the threat posed by these alien interlopers, while Hitler, a pure product of this alien intelligence, waged genocide in an attempt to rid Earth of all those untouched by this genetic tampering. Despite the powerful grip the Greys have on humanity, Kerner says that all hope is not lost. Greys exist wholly in the material world, so if we follow the spiritual laws of reincarnation and karma, aiming for enlightenment and rising above the material–a state the Greys are unable to reach–we can free ourselves from their grasp.
Right next to the most helpful critical review on amazon is the most helpful favourable review and in the interest of balance and fairness I would like to put an extract of this before you and anyone who might be interested in this book. As I’ve read this book I can vouch for its serious philosophical and scientific content and I have to say the way you discuss this man’s ideas without any real familiarity with them is at best childish and at worst imbecilic.
“Kerner’s thesis also justifies the existence of a very different God to the OT variety, a God demonstrated by Jesus but disregarded by most Christians in favour of the Old Testament version. An implicate God that is the infinite centre of perfection described in Buddhism and implied by quantum physics. It is a natural connection to that state of perfection that this writer says the aliens are missing and that is why they are fascinated with us because we have that connection, a Soul in other words. These alien visitors are artificial creations, probes sent out by technologically advanced civilisations to explore hostile environments and warn their creators of threat.
Kerner offers a good deal of evidence from Gnostic texts to suggest that Jesus warned his apostles of the threat posed by the alien phenomenon. There is evidence he presents from the recently found Gospel of Judas that seems to imply that Jesus told Judas his biological line was genetically intercepted.
All in all I can’t recommend this book highly enough to the serious minded reader. Scientist or philosopher, if you can hitch up your prejudices for a moment and I for one know how difficult this is , and give this a go you’ll find this book a very interesting read at the very least and one that might inspire you to take these ideas further. It provides not just the most terrifying warning of our predicament as a species but it also gives us a deeply realistic look at the marvellous alternative that awaits those who heed this warning. It’s life transforming stuff. “