Recently, my wife and I went to an Arlo Guthrie concert at the art center on Hilton Head dedicated to the life and music of Arlo’s father, Woodie. During the concert, Arlo mentioned that he had received an email from a committee trying to organize a 45th anniversary of Woodstock. He wrote back suggesting that a 50th anniversary seemed more meaningful. The organizers wrote back saying they were concerned that most of the entertainers and potential attendees might be dead by then.
We have passed the 25,000 comments mark. I decided not to wait for 100,000 comments so let us toast what we have done so far. The honor for #25,000 goes to Yannick Clément writing about Easter morning in John’s Gospel:
Exactly and this is unfortunate that John wasn’t more precise about those things. Nevertheless, I have a sense that his text was probably much more precise for the community to which he was speaking… And in the end, the most important thing to understand from this account is the fact that not only did he and Peter found the tomb empty that morning, but also all the burial cloths that were left there without the body. That’s what really matter.
I have been reading about piezonuclear radiation as applied to the Shroud of Turin.
I noticed your note at the side . . .
So I sent you this email
My essay at www.religioustolerance.org/chr_shro2.htm says:
Portrayal of the top of the man’s head: There are two images on the sheet, showing a man’s back and front. That is because this burial shroud was apparently wrapped from the the man’s feet, up the front of his body, over his head, and down his back to his feet. The front and back images of the head are separated by a gap of less than 1 cm (less than a half inch).
Some investigators have suggested that the image on the shroud was caused by some form of radiation emanating from the body, perhaps at about the time of death. This leads immediately to what might be called the "top of the head" problem.
If radiation from the head created the two two images on the shroud, then there are only two possibilities:
1) There was similar radiation from the top of the head. It would have left an image of the top of the victim’s head on the shroud. However, there is no such image. Only a tiny gap is seen.
2) There was no radiation from the top of the head. This would result in a dark gap of perhaps 12 cm (almost 5 inches) between the top of the front of the head and the top of the back of the head. No such gap is visible.
Thus the radiation theory seems to fail because it does not match the image.
That still leaves the possibility that the Shroud is some form of image intentionally created — either as a painting by an artist or by some form of photographic technique.
This leaves two possibilities:
1) The shroud was created as a forgery that was to be "sold" to the public as Jesus’ shroud. This seems improbable because the "top of the head" problem would immediately point out that this is not a real 1st century shroud.
2) The shroud was created by a human as a type of icon to be venerated. This seems to be the most likely possibility.
Any new thoughts?
just explain that you are here for the Shroud of Turin presentation
KVIA ABC-7 Television News is reporting:
Fort Bliss, TX – Fort Bliss hopes to educate and inform those interested in learning more about Shroud of Turin.
The army base will host two different information sessions on Saturday, March 8th at 311, Pershing Circle, West Fort Bliss.
The first session begins at 10 a.m. and runs through noon. It will be related to history and 3D-Science of the historic event. Session two will start at 1 p.m. and will end at 3:30 p.m., it is being called a “spiritual reflections retreat.”
The event is sponsored by the Chaplains Office.
This is the first time a presentation on this topic has been held at Fort Bliss. The event is presented by Shroud Researcher, Deacon Pete Schumacher. This event is free and open to the public. Attendees may bring a sack lunch if they decide to attend for both sessions.
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ANSA English of ANSA, the Italian News Agency, is running:
(ANSA) – Turin, February 27 – The mysterious Shroud of Turin will be exhibited for an unprecedented 67 days next year, the office that keeps what Catholics revere as Christ’s winding sheet said Thursday.
From April 19 to June 24, 2015 the shroud that is believed by many faithful to bear the image of a dead Jesus will be on display.
The unusually long showing is because it will coincide with the bicentenary of the birth of Catholic educator and slum reformer Saint John Bosco and with a visit by Pope Francis whose exact date has yet to be established, the Shroud office said.
June 24 is the feast day of Turin’s patron saint St John the Baptist, as well as the name day of Don Bosco, as he is more commonly known.
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Before then, it had been on view in 2000 and has been on display only five times in the past 100 years.
Believers say the linen Shroud was used to wrap the body of Christ after his crucifixion and countless scientific tests conducted over the years have revealed the outline of the body of a man embedded in the fabric.
The Shroud is normally heavily guarded in a bullet-proof, climate-controlled glass case within Turin’s most important cathedral.
Only once before had images of the Shroud been broadcast as ordered in November 1973 by then-pope Paul VI.
Some sceptics maintain the Shroud is nothing more than an elaborate fake dating from the Middle Ages, triggering centuries of debate over whether the image is truly that of Christ, or a very good forgery.
Radiocarbon-dating tests conducted on the cloth in 1988 suggested it dated from between 1260 and 1390; however, other scientists have since claimed those results could have been distorted by centuries of contamination.
That has led to calls for more testing, which the Vatican has consistently refused.
AND: Santa Sindone: Sito Officiale (Holy Shroud, Official Site) has published the dates for the 2015 Exposition on its website. Here is a Bing translation of the Italian language page:
Exposition 2015, here are the dates
Exposition of the shroud from 19 April to June 24, 2015
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The dates of the exposition Don Roberto Gottardo presented the dates indicated by the custodian for the exposition of 2015, that the Council approved. The exposition will be held from Sunday 19 April to Wednesday 24 June, feast of Saint John the Baptist, patron saint of Turin and Saint of don Bosco. The longer period (67 days) than that of other exposures of the cloth; but you wanted to, in this way, provide the period most broad possible both for the Pope’s visit for the pilgrimage to the Shroud of the young people who will participate in the various celebrations of the Jubilee salesiano.
Known asPapa Francesco assured his presence in Turin to venerate the Shroud and honor the memory of don Bosco in the bicentenary of the birth; but have not been given precise dates for his visit.
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AND: The official sites’ home page includes this box:
HOWEVER: Barrie Schwortz is commenting in Facebook:
I’ll be working with Canterbury Tours again, as I did in 1998, 2000 and 2010. Now that the dates are confirmed we will start making specific plans. Keep watching for more details in the near future.
A commenter who calls himself Talos wonders, “What if it doesn’t belong to ‘Jesus’?”. This is based on a strange theory that has been around since 2005 when the book, Apollonius of Tyana and The Shroud of Turin was published. The idea has never gained any traction. The commenter recommends a blog posting: Turin Shroud: Proof or Doom for Christianity? In that blog we read:
That is because according to late Texas researcher Rob Solarion the cloth did indeed cover the body of Christ after the crucifixion. But not the Christ of the New Testament. It was the true, historical Christ, who was none other than the Greek-Cappadocian sage APOLLONIUS OF TYANA!
Apollonius was born approximately in 4 BC and he was said to be a divine man, moral teacher, religious reformer, healer, prophet, and miracle worker. Sounds familiar? Yes it does, and that is why Raymond Bernard declared emphatically that Jesus was a myth based on Apollonius. Yet there was a crucial difference between the two. Apollonius lived for about 100 years and traveled throughout the known world, while Jesus lived only 33 years in Palestine.
Rob Solarion [pictured] puts two and two together and proposes a revolutionary theory: The man on the Shroud is actually Apollonius of Tyana and so the story of Jesus is actually a missing chapter of his life! Ιncidentally, that supports the theory that Jesus did not die on the cross, something hinted in the Gospels too. Is this possible?
So far, without reading the book, I see no evidence other than a rather suspect comparison of the face image from the shroud and a maybe-undated statue of Apollonius of Tyana. Wikipedia suggests (or does it?) that the statue might be late second century. Yeah, that will work!
BTW: The facial comparisons in the blog Apollonius of Tyana and The Shroud of Turin posting are dubious, at best.
This article, From Skepticism to Belief: Shroud of Turin Researcher Shares Experiences, appears on the St. John’s University website:
Schwortz addressed hundreds of students, faculty, and staff in the Little Theater on the Queens campus. Describing his continuing research about the shroud, he spoke of the shroud’s impact on his own beliefs. “More than anything else, even if you’re a total skeptic, I hope students learn not to judge something by what they see in the media,” he said. “I hope they have an open mind—mine wasn’t open for 20 years.”
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Though Jewish, Schwortz found his research on the shroud a transformational experience. He was originally reluctant to join STURP. By the time the original study concluded, however, he felt his work remained unfinished. In 1995, he met someone who insisted the shroud was a fake—based largely on a tabloid article. The encounter compelled Schwortz to examine his own perspectives on the cloth: he realized that he believed in its authenticity. Schwortz went on to found http://www.shroud.com, the top Google search and oldest website on the topic.
- Here is a link to the publisher’s page on the book. (Use Bing or Google Translation)
- Here is a link to a press release in the form of an interview with Giulio Fanti
- BEST: The The Eponymous Flower blog discusses this book’s launch with a short introduction and a well done translation of an interview with Giulio by Vatican Insider