St. Louis, Friday Morning

October 10, 2014 33 comments

imageRay Schneider is up with Dating The Shroud Of Turin: Weighing All The Evidence.  “When did carbon dating become infallible?” he asks. He then challenges that assumption with an excellent summary of the other evidence –  at least most of it and not much of the so-called evidenced that is widely disputed. Overall, one of the best comprehensive summaries I’ve seen. Looking forward to publication of this presentation.  Great charts. 

Here is the abstract:

When the Carbon 14 (C14) dating of the Shroud of Turin result was announced in 1988, the tests concluded that the shroud was woven of flax whose age was estimated to be between 1260 and 1390 A.D. This result flew in the face of many expectations of authenticity but was welcomed by many as revealing the shroud to be simply inauthentic and it was then popularly heralded as a "fake." However, this rush to judgment contradicted most of the science and scholarship previously invested in the shroud. It is perhaps a measure of the respect in which C14 dating is held that the finding tended to discredit the earlier work, yet it is a questionable scientific practice to vest one kind of result with such weight as to completely discount the results of a large body of prior work. The present paper seeks a larger perspective by providing an objective account of as many factors as possible to put the issue of dating in a more complete balance. Both the positive and negative evidence for authenticity from a variety of historical, archeological, religious, and scientific domains is presented.

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It’s an incredible, incredible experience

October 10, 2014 Leave a comment

I think these three ladies enjoyed the Shroud Exposition in Royal Oak, Michigan  (website and excellent Facebook page.)

The exposition ends tomorrow. According to newspaper accounts, the twelve chamber exhibit moves on to San Antonia. The plan, after that, is to take it to seventy cities in twenty years. A 55 minute audio guide is available in eleven languages. 

YouTube Link

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It may well be the best publicized conference yet

October 9, 2014 5 comments

by a long shot

It started tonight with a multiscreen “Shroud Encounter” presentation by Russ Breault.


The Post-Dispatch story  by Lilly Fowler about the conference was syndicated on Religion News Services (RNS). It was picked up by the national paper, Huffington Post as The Unsolved Mystery Behind The Shroud Of Turin Still Has The Power To CaptivateThe Washington Post and at least forty other news outlets, large and small, also picked up the story.

Now that’s a conference

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And they are going to talk about the Shroud of Turin, as well

clip_image001The Christian Post is reporting today:

Robots, aliens and superheroes are among the many topics that will be tackled this weekend at the Southern Evangelical Seminary’s 21st Annual National Conference on Christian Apologetics in Charlotte, North Carolina.

Somewhere between 1,700 and 2,000 are expected to attend. Speakers will focus on three main topic areas — God and science, Christianity and culture, and historical apologetics. The theme is, "defending a never changing faith in an ever changing world."

[ . . . ]

Other speakers will talk about aliens and evolution, the biblical flood, robots and artificial intelligence, astronomy, sexuality, abortion, pop culture, the resurrection, archeology, Islam, Hinduism, the Shroud of Turin, the inerrancy of scripture, and C.S. Lewis.

Want to bet that the shroud presentation will be by Gary Habermas. The picture, here, is of him giving the talk last year.

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Out of Bari: The Shroud of Arquata in Contact with he Shroud of Turin

October 9, 2014 Leave a comment

From the Charlotte, North Carolina Airport en route to St. Louis

imageRecently uploaded to Multidisciplinary study of the Shroud of Arquata, “extractum ab originali” by P. Di Lazzaro, A. Danielis, M. Guarneri, M. Missori, D. Murra, V. Piraccini, V. Spizzichino, S. Bollanti

An outline:

  1. The Shroud of Arquata, a touch of history
  2. Analyses of the cloth and stains
  3. U V induced fluorescence
  4. Imaging Topological Radar Scanner
  5. Laser Induced Fluorescence
  6. U V-visible-near infrared absolute reflectance
  7. Summary of the results
    . . . a touch of history:

1655: Parchment signed by the Bishop of Alba, stating that during the TS exposition in Turin on the 4th May1653, a copy of  the TS 20 hands long and 5 hands wide was put in contact with the . . .

Add to Your Poster Collection at Amazon

October 9, 2014 Leave a comment

From the Savannah, Georgia Airport en route to St. Louis

imageYes, you can now buy a Shroud of Turin Full Image Poster. It is 13×19 inches, designed to custom fit Rich And Framous (no joke) brand poster hangers. You have a choice of plain paper or laminated paper. Thumb tack not included (they actually said that).

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Note: Not eligible for Amazon Prime.

In stock. Usually ships within 2 to 3 days.

Or you can run over to Staples or a FedEx store and get the same thing for a bit less. Just take your favorite jpeg with you on a thumb drive. Thumb tack not included.

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Day of Conference News Coverage

October 9, 2014 1 comment

imageIf you know St. Louis, you know the Post-Dispatch. It is one of the country’s leading newspapers, founded in 1878 by Joseph Pulitzer. This morning, the following headline appeared on the front page of the online edition: Shroud of Turin conference draws believers to St. Louis

The article, written by Lilly Fowler, the paper’s religion reporter, is informative, refreshingly accurate and balanced. Here are a few quotes:

Forty experts, scientists and enthusiasts are introducing the latest research surrounding the so-called burial cloth of Jesus at an international four-day conference, opening today at the Drury Plaza Inn in Chesterfield.

imageThe last Shroud of Turin conference was held in Columbus, Ohio, in 2008. The Archdiocese of Turin is also planning a public exhibition of the relic in 2015 that Pope Francis is expected to attend,

Russ Breault, who first became interested in the Shroud of Turin when he wrote about it for his college paper. will deliver the opening talk that will focus on how the pattern of wounds on the man seen on the shroud — markings consistent with a crown of thorns, a pierced wrist and what appear to be blood stains — correlate with what the Gospels say happened to Jesus.

For Breault, the question — “Could this be the burial cloth of Jesus?” — is one worthy of rigorous pursuit.

“This is one of the greatest unsolved mysteries in the world,” Breault said from his home in Atlanta. “It all comes down to possibility and what that possibility represents.”

[ . . . ]

“The radiocarbon sample has completely different chemical properties than the main part of the shroud relic,” Raymond Rogers, a retired chemist from Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico, told the BBC News in 2005.

[ . . . ]

The Roman Catholic Church itself has come down somewhere in the middle with regard to the authenticity of the shroud. Although it has not declared the artifact a bonafide relic, since it was willed to the Vatican in 1983, the popes themselves have venerated the object.

[ . . . ]

Breault also says proving the shroud is the burial garment of Jesus isn’t crucial to him. Still, he admits he’s “rooting for the home team, for sure.”

“But again, if it remains an unresolved mystery,” he said. “I’m fine with that too.”


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