I like Gary Habermas. I like his books about the resurrection from a well reasoned historical perspective. But this quick apologetic, published yesterday, is simply not helpful. As I see it, it is aa reasoned argument based on a mixture of fanciful speculation and inaccurate statements. Too bad!
Here is a rough transcription of a piece of it:
The conclusion of many if not most studies is that you have radiation coming out from the dead body . . . and the latest experiments just released six months ago put it in the first century . . . plus or minus 250 years and that the cause was radiation from a dead body. The body is dead and the radiation is coming out because it is bringing inner parts out like for example teeth . . .
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Paul to Timothy: When you come, bring the cloak that I left with Carpus at Troas,
also the books, and above all the parchments.
– 2 Timothy 4:13 (NRSV)
About a week ago, Simon Brown uploaded a video, Solid Proof Turin Shroud is 1st Century! which was produced by his friend David Roberts. It runs about ten minutes. It is interesting.
Is it a bit of a stretch?
He joins Fr. Joseph Mary Wolfe to discuss the shroud on the Eternal Word Television Network (EWTN), the American-based television network of around-the-clock Catholic-themed programming. The 56 minute broadcast was November 6, 2013.
This YouTube video of Barrie just showed up on a blog, Putting focus on science: Scientific photography and visual representation of science at its best. It runs 55 minutes. It is good lecture, worth watching. Click on the image to link to the video.
Nice, five-minute GodTube video featuring Gary Habermas, Could the Shroud of Turin really be the actual burial garment of Jesus?
From Gary’s website we learn:
Gary Habermas has dedicated his professional life to the examination of the relevant historical, philosophical, and theological issues surrounding the death and resurrection of Jesus. His extensive list of publications and debates provides a thorough account of the current state of the issue. Christian believers as well as unbelievers may find within the contents of this site a strong argument for the philosophical possibility of miracles and the historicity of the resurrection of Jesus, as well as the theological and practical implications of this event.
Stop at six minutes. But if you want, Gateway Anabaptist Church in Michigan has hours and hours of lectures on just about anything.
I watched the twelve-minute segment of 60 Minutes about Bill O’Reilly and his new book (see my earlier September 27 posting, The Gospel According to Bill O’Reilly). I was amazed at the man’s arrogance. Here is how CBS bills the interview conducted by Norah O’Donnell:
The Gospel according to Bill O’Reilly?
September 29, 2013 4:00 PM
Bill O’Reilly, the king of cable TV news, says the Holy Spirit tapped him to write "Killing Jesus" – a book that refutes parts of the Bible
Watch it by clicking on the image above.
Here are some choice bits posted by Anugrah Kumar in the Christian Post right after the show aired:
"And I believe – because I’m a Catholic – that comes from the Holy Spirit. My inspiration comes from that. And so I wrote Killing Jesus because I think I was directed to write that," added O’Reilly in the interview with Norah O’Donnell that will air on Sunday evening.
O’Donnell asked O’Reilly if he thinks he’s a chosen one. "I’m just one of many who have been given gifts," replied the anchor of "The O’Reilly Factor." "I can write. I can bloviate on TV. So I’m trying to use the gifts in a positive way. And I believe that’s all directed and that’s why I’m here on the planet."
In Killing Jesus, O’Reilly "details the events leading up to the murder of the most influential man in history: Jesus of Nazareth," according to publisher Henry Holt and Company, which paid the two authors $10 million as advance
Some parts of the book contradict the New Testament’s accounts of the crucifixion. For example, O’Reilly believes Jesus couldn’t have spoken the words, "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do," because the crucifixion wouldn’t have allowed enough air in His lungs.
“several thoughts popped into my mind”
I recently rewatched a Shroud program titled "Shreds of Evidence" shown on A&E cable network on 4/21/95. It was a BBC/Timewatch production. I believe that was the 1st time it had been broadcast in the United States. I’m not sure when it was first shown in England. But it was actually produced in 1988, per the date listed at the end of the video and something else I’ll mention in a minute.
The program starts out with the late Fr. Peter Rinaldi, a well-known Shroud advocate, going to the Cathedral to pray before the Shroud. But when I tell you that David Sox was interviewed a lot and was the program consultant, you will be able to guess what direction the program heads. Sox is an American Episcopal priest who has been living in England for some decades now. He was the 1st General Secretary of the British Society for the Turin Shroud and seemingly pro-Shroud in the 70s until he apparently became convinced by the evidence put forth by McCrone, who believed it showed that the Shroud was a fake.
Sox, as many of you know, had the book The Shroud Unmasked printed and ready to go when the C-14 dates were released in October 1988. Against the protocol set for the C-14 labs, he was given advance information about the results, and I believe was even allowed to observe the actual testing at Zurich.
The program paints a picture of pro-Shroud scientists, including STURP of course, as those who have let their religious feelings get in the way of their scientific objectivity. It paints a picture of C-14 being pretty much fool-proof. It paints a picture of science pretty much always proving that religion is rarely if ever on the same level as science. It paints a picture of the 14th century being a time of many relics and very much into suffering, implying that the Shroud fits in perfectly with that time as a man-made object. The point is made that people in the 14th century literally paid to see the Shroud.
What really jumped out at me at the end of the program was when the rolling text gave the dates that the British Museum received the results from Zurich and Arizona and Oxford was delayed. It then said that the official results were expected in September. So this documentary was already complete in summer 1988! So Sox not only had his book ready to go when the dates were announced, he was significantly involved in a documentary completed before the dates were even announced.
I think this is interesting in light of the later discovery that "anonymous businessmen" made a 1 million pound donation to Oxford for ostensibly having proven the Shroud to be a forgery. And, of course, we know that the British Museum’s Dr. Michael Tite, who was billed as the independent overseer of the 1988 C-14 dating, left the museum and took the place of the late Dr. Edward (Teddy) Hall, when he resigned shortly after the dating and after the lab had received the donation.
Knowing that Sox’s book was ready to go when the results were announced and that "Shreds of Evidence" was produced even before the official dates were announced, several thoughts popped into my mind:
*Was having both the book and documentary ready before the official dates were announced designed as a specific psychological attack on those who believed the Shroud to be authentic? If so, what individuals or groups were involved?
*Were there any connections/associations between the publisher of Sox’s book, BBC/Timewatch, which put out the documentary, and the "anonymous businessmen" that donated the million pounds to Oxford?
*We may never know the answers, but I have a feeling that if we did, there would be some shocking revelations.
The concept of a cloth falling into the underlying body region and receiving an image, in essence, requires that two separate assumptions be made. First, we must assume that the body became mechanically "transparent" to its physical surroundings and, second, that a stimulus was generated that recorded the passage of the cloth through the body region onto the cloth as an image. With regard to the latter assumption, it is unclear in an a priori sense what to assume for the physical nature of the stimulus. However, we at least know that it was able to interact physically with cloth; otherwise, image discolorations would not have been formed. I propose that, as the Shroud collapsed through the underlying body, radiation emitted from all points within that body discolored the cloth so as to produce the observed image. As will be seen below, this assumption  explains the superficiality of the Shroud image and, perhaps, the differentiation in fibril coloring.
— John P. Jackson
"Cloth Collapse theory" to explain the origin of the Shroud’s image is, in my opinion, one of the most important things ever written about the Shroud of Turin. This is because it claims to, and I agree that it does, "explain all image characteristics found on the shroud image."
And now for the video: yes, that is a nose you are looking at. It is Jackson’s presentation of his hypothesis at a St. Louis Symposium in the video, "What is Missing? " You will need to download it in WMV format from Shroud University. It runs a little bit over an hour (1:18).
Weekly, it seems, maybe more often, the Huffington Post carries a story about some biblical archaeological discovery. The latest, yesterday, was: Dalmanutha, Biblical Town Mentioned In Gospel Of Mark, Possibly Discovered Archaeologists Claim.
With each such article, the online paper includes a gallery of pictures with supporting video reports of other biblical archaeological topics. One of these, for months and months now it seems, has been about the shroud; the caption reads, “Shroud of Turin: A series of experiments conducted by Italian researchers indicate the Shroud of Turin is likely authentic, but the team has not yet reached a definite conclusion.”
It is the ENEA/UV/Laser story from December nearly two years ago best summarized thus:
Last year scientists were able to replicate marks on the cloth using highly advanced ultraviolet techniques that weren’t available 2,000 years ago — or during the medieval times, for that matter.
Kept alive, not exactly viral, but linked to over and over and over, maybe forever and forever.
This now year-and-a-half old video that is part of the David Rolfe challenge to Richard Dawkins has just (September 8) showed up in the strangest place, within an article in the megablog, PJ Media. The article is A House Divided: Why Can’t Jesus Be Both Jewish Hero and Risen Lord?: Continuing to delve deeper into Rabbi Shmuley Boteach’s Kosher Jesus. You will need to click through to page 2. (I wonder how they do that; this YouTube video has a PJ Media watermark)
If you haven’t seen it before, enjoy.
Hat tip to Joe Marino
Given the conversation thread started with the posting of David Rolfe’s picture of the Shroud image showing its actual coloration, this video may be of interest. There are two themes. The second theme is called "When is a Scorch NOT a Scorch?"
For the remainder of the campaign all three of my Shroud films can be viewed for free here:
Please circulate as far and wide as you can. There are links to the campaign on the page and at the end of each film.
Have a good weekend and thank you.
(Above letter reformatted by me for the blog.)
As of this posting, you have 38 days left to watch these three excellent films and you have 38 days left to contribute.
So how big is crowdfunding? In an email release, Indigogo, the firm David chose, justifiably brags:
Indiegogo has now broken the world record for hosting the biggest crowdfunding campaign of all time! Thank you to everyone for making this happen, and for making history.
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Hat tip to Joe Marino: Watch this one minute and fifteen seconds trailer, in Russian. You don’t need to understand to get the feeling of it. The voiceover, amusingly makes it look like Barrie Schwortz and John Jackson are speaking Russian, at least for a few seconds.
A couple of days ago, Lyn Leahz was promoting the following video on her “a born again, Spirit filled Christian author” blog. See if you can watch this entire 30 minute video without screaming, laughing or crying. There are a couple of very sane special appearances by Barrie Schwortz and Isabel Piczek beginning somewhere near the 10:48 mark. That’s fine. But, people being people, make unfounded associations. In the couple of minutes before Barrie and Isabel, in this preview of the Watcher Series: Biblical Answers For the Unexplainable–the Shroud of Turin, Torah Code and More, we hear some of the most twisted use of scripture ever invented. It is all muddled up with (don’t fall over laughing) human abductions by aliens in UFOs who, today, are only harvesting the souls of diminutive people rather than the giants they were getting back in Genesis 6. (Should it be “who” or “that” with non-human aliens — like with “robots who” or “machines who+ – remember we are talking about angels? Moving on . . .):
Some expert in the video: You see, this is the only way they have to multiply their forces. Angels don’t reproduce. The Hybrids do
L.A. Marzulli: Not only do these angels pollute the human genome, they conduct experiments on the animal kingdom and plants bringing chaos to God’s creation.
I guess Hank Campbell, author of the book, Science Left Behind, doesn’t think much about shroud science. In his blog, Science 2.0, he writes:
One writer at The Guardian says Discovery Channel is sinking to tabloid status because of this year’s "Shark Week".
Where has he been? Did he not see "The Lost Tomb Of Jesus" and those ghost hunter shows and everything featuring Zahi Hawass and that thing about ghosts invading Britain and the shows on Bigfoot and a whole catalog about the Shroud of Turin? Discovery Channel went into tabloid status long ago, right along with National Geographic and the Science Channel and its version of "Pawn Stars", which centers on an antique store for weird science stuff. I get emails from every one of those companies three time per week peddling this stuff and it doesn’t bother me.
It bothers me when Real Face of Jesus is sandwiched between Ice Road Truckers and Cajun Pawn Stars on what is only sometimes the History Channel.
Talk about crowdfunding movies.
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You might want to pass along this link to your readers who are interested in supporting David Rolfe’s latest movie making venture. I thought Silent Witness was the most important documentary ever made about the Shroud. I’m sure this new mofie will equal that success.
The link is for an article, God & I: David Rolfe by by Mario Conte, OFM Conv. that appeared in the April 2009 issue of the Messenger of Saint Anthony. This caught me attention:
Did you have a hard time raising the funds necessary to produce the documentary on the mysterious veil?
There were two main problems. First, the concept of an independent producer in those days was a very new one. All the TV channels were monopolistic, ether run by the State or licensed by the State, so independent films had very limited budgets.
The second reason was that no one was interested in the subject of Christian relics.
In the meantime I had put some research together. The paper that was sent to me originally was by a historian called Ian Wilson. He had studied at Oxford, and had been intrigued by the way that the Shroud image bore very specific details found in the emerging images of Christ from the 6th century. These observations led him to link the Shroud with a mysterious cloth known as the Mandylion (image made without hands) that had come to light in the city of Edessa (now Urfa) in Southern Turkey. This cloth had a tradition that took it right back to the time of Christ.
Having resolved to try and make this film on the Shroud I still had to earn a living in the meantime and feed my family. I was making a film for a corporate client in Saudi Arabia, and got stuck in an airport for 8 hours with some Americans. There were four of us, and in order to pass the time they wanted to play bridge. I never played bridge before so they gave me a crash course; we rolled away the time and I got to know one American, called Forrest, very well. He was based in Texas, and I told him I was working on the Shroud, and that it was linked to Anatolia. About 3 months later he sent me a clipping from theHuston Post, about the work of the Swiss criminologist Max Frei, who had taken some samples from the cloth, and concluded that some of the pollens in it came from southern Turkey. So here was a strong correlation between historical theory and forensic evidence.
So the first thing I did was to introduce Ian Wilson to Max Frei, and I accompanied them on a research trip to Urfa in Anatolia, but I still had no success in raising the money for the film.
Barrie Schwortz writes to members of Shroud of Turin Website Mailing List:
Just a short note to let you know that the next major update to Shroud.com will go online on August 31, 2013 and will be another big one. However, one item has come up that could not wait until the end of the month.
Our good friend David Rolfe, BAFTA award winning British filmmaker, Shroud scholar and director of the first ever Shroud documentary, 1977′s The Silent Witness, has created a new feature film project called The Shroud Affair. To get the project started, David is using the innovative new fundraising technique called "crowd funding." With the script completed and the project ready for development, David launched an online crowd funding campaign today to raise the funds necessary to go the next level. You can find out more information about the film, view a trailer and make a contribution to the project on the Indiegogo website at this link: The Shroud Affair.
David has included a number of items from our Website Store as gifts for those who make contributions to his project, so STERA, Inc. will also benefit from the campaign. We’ll include more details in our August 31st update but wanted to get the word to you today. And don’t forget to visit the Private Subscribers Page for exclusive offers not available to the general public. See you on August 31st!
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I do not claim to know exactly what the Turin Shroud is but I am as sure as anyone can be that it is not a medieval fake. Through the documentaries I have made I have come to know a lot about it and the sense of injustice – on behalf of the Man on the Shroud – that this has engendered is what has brought me here. Excluding the suspect C14 test done nearly 25 years ago, any rational assessment of the evidence will conclude that the man depicted is the crucified Jesus of Nazareth and the blood on it is his. But the presence of that blood, now that science can detect and do so much with it, may have been the reason the Vatican effectively sabotaged the C14 test and has subsequently denied all further scientific investigation.
Do take the time to explore the Crowdfunding Campaign at Indiegogo I found it very informative.
- Film Title: The Shroud Affair
- Producer: David Rolfe
- Genre: Religious Fiction
- Endorsement: Professor Bruno Barberis*
- Link to the Crowdfunding Campaign at Indiegogo
- Goal of the Campaign: $25,000.00
- Participant Levels: $10, $25, $50, $100, $250, $500, $1000, $2500, $5000 or $7500
I’m not asking you to participate. I will.
*Photo: Professor Bruno Barberis, director of the International Center of Sindonology in Turin and director of the Shroud Museum of left with David Rolfe on right.